RE: "fake" hive in the registry on 64 bit windows

"Perlmutter, Joshua B" <[email protected]> Mon, 15 Apr 2013 11:39:51 +0000
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Joel,

Thank you. Not only did this explain what was happening it gave a solution =
without anything being added.
Trying to create a script to gather the registry information for a program =
that happens to be 32 bit and ships with a basic Perl for a Perl API, I fig=
ured this would be a great way to remove human error, unfortunately I did n=
ot expect the caveat you explained and resolved quite nicely.

Thank you again.

And thanks to everyone whom replied. The options of extra items was somethi=
ng I was going to bring up and look into due to the need to verify our regi=
stry section correctly.

Sincerely,
Josh Perlmutter
CA SiteMinder Technical Support Engineer
Contacting support...
...By Phone: 1-800-CALL CAI (225-5224)
...Via the Web: https://support.ca.com

Any questions or concerns, please feel free to contact my manager Bill Mill=
er Manager, CA Technologies Support
(508) 628-8858
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: [email protected] [mailto:activeperl-bounce=
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joel Friedman
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:02 PM
To: Perlmutter, Joshua B; [email protected]
Subject: RE: "fake" hive in the registry on 64 bit windows

I'm not certain if this is your problem, but if you are running an x86 copy=
 of Perl on an x64 system, and you are using backticks for execution, Windo=
ws filesystem redirection will kick in and actually execute %windir%\SysWOW=
64\reg.exe.  The x86 version of reg.exe is different, and may (purposefully=
) not have access to the 64bit registry.

Try executing $ENV{SYSTEMROOT} . '\\SysNative\\reg.exe' instead.  You won't=
 see the SysNative directory from the standard (x64) command prompt, but it=
 will exist from within an x86 shell with filesystem redirection.

--Joel

From: [email protected] [mailto:activeperl-bounce=
[email protected]] On Behalf Of Perlmutter, Joshua B
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:39 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: "fake" hive in the registry on 64 bit windows

Dear Perl Gurus,

I have an issue with reading registries in Perl. I know there is a ppm for =
this, but requirements prohibit the use of this package. I am instead using=
 "reg"
I have posted on the Active State Forums, yet they seem infrequently used.,=
 so I am reposting here.

Originally posted to: http://community.activestate.com/node/9693


In the attached sample script I get an extra copy of the 32 bit hive in the=
 64 bit section. This is even after creating a fake 64 bit section that has=
 one key called "isThisReal" with value "Do You See Me?" as a Reg_SZ

Instead I get the attached output.
Any help on figuring out how to get the real 64 bit hive section would be G=
REATLY appreciated.

There should be an attachment of a zip file containing the test script and =
its output.

(Notice: This is a REGISTRY QUERYING SCRIPT. if you are uncomfortable touch=
ing your windows registry, please do not execute.)

What i tried for testing was to run the commands OUTSIDE of perl in the com=
mand shell and i get the correct output there.

This is being developed to gather information on server machines so i've be=
en using Windows 2008 R2.

I'm sure it is me missing something as this is not something i would expect=
 to be uncommon, so i apologize in advance if this seems stupidly simple. G=
oogle and other search engines have not helped as i have not found anything=
 particular to this.

Again, thank you in advance for any assistance.

Josh Perlmutter
CA Technologies


Sincerely,
Josh Perlmutter
CA SiteMinder Technical Support Engineer
Contacting support...
...By Phone: 1-800-CALL CAI (225-5224)
...Via the Web: https://support.ca.com

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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Joel,<o:p></o:p></span></=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you. Not only did t=
his explain what was happening it gave a solution without anything being ad=
ded.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Trying to create a script=
 to gather the registry information for a program that happens to be 32 bit=
 and ships with a basic Perl for a Perl API, I figured this
 would be a great way to remove human error, unfortunately I did not expect=
 the caveat you explained and resolved quite nicely.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Thank you again.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">And thanks to everyone wh=
om replied. The options of extra items was something I was going to bring u=
p and look into due to the need to verify our registry section
 correctly. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span><=
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;color:#1F497D">Sincerely,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas=
;color:#1F497D">Josh Perlmutter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas=
;color:#1F497D">CA SiteMinder Technical Support Engineer<o:p></o:p></span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas=
;color:#1F497D">Contacting support...<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> activepe=
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]=
iveState.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Joel Friedman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, April 13, 2013 10:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Perlmutter, Joshua B; [email protected]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: &quot;fake&quot; hive in the registry on 64 bit windows=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I&#8217;m not certain if =
this is your problem, but if you are running an x86 copy of Perl on an x64 =
system, and you are using backticks for execution, Windows filesystem
 redirection will kick in and actually execute %windir%\SysWOW64\reg.exe.&n=
bsp; The x86 version of reg.exe is different, and may (purposefully) not ha=
ve access to the 64bit registry.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Try executing $ENV{SYSTEM=
ROOT} . '\\SysNative\\reg.exe&#8217; instead.&nbsp; You won&#8217;t see the=
 SysNative directory from the standard (x64) command prompt, but it will
 exist from within an x86 shell with filesystem redirection.</span><o:p></o=
:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">--Joel</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot=
;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> activepe=
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]=
iveState.com]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Perlmutter, Joshua B<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 11, 2013 12:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> [email protected]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> &quot;fake&quot; hive in the registry on 64 bit windows</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Dear Perl Gurus,</span><o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I have an issue with read=
ing registries in Perl. I know there is a ppm for this, but requirements pr=
ohibit the use of this package. I am instead using &#8220;reg&#8221;</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">I have posted on the Acti=
ve State Forums, yet they seem infrequently used., so I am reposting here.<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">Originally posted to:</sp=
an>
<span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-=
serif&quot;;color:#1F497D"><a href=3D"http://community.activestate.com/node=
/9693">http://community.activestate.com/node/9693</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">I=
n the attached sample script I get an extra copy of the 32 bit hive in the =
64 bit section. This is even after creating a fake 64 bit
 section that has one key called &#8220;isThisReal&#8221; with value &#8220=
;Do You See Me?&#8221; as a Reg_SZ</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">I=
nstead I get the attached output.<br>
Any help on figuring out how to get the real 64 bit hive section would be G=
REATLY appreciated.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">T=
here should be an attachment of a zip file containing the test script and i=
ts output.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">(=
Notice: This is a REGISTRY QUERYING SCRIPT. if you are uncomfortable touchi=
ng your windows registry, please do not execute.)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">W=
hat i tried for testing was to run the commands OUTSIDE of perl in the comm=
and shell and i get the correct output there.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">T=
his is being developed to gather information on server machines so i've bee=
n using Windows 2008 R2.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">I=
'm sure it is me missing something as this is not something i would expect =
to be uncommon, so i apologize in advance if this seems
 stupidly simple. Google and other search engines have not helped as i have=
 not found anything particular to this.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">A=
gain, thank you in advance for any assistance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style=3D"line-height:16.8pt;background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0.5pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#333333">J=
osh Perlmutter<br>
CA Technologies</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
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libri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p><=
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