Re: [Extern] - Re: Support for MariaDB in Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI::

Peter Cock <[email protected]> Tue, 3 Sep 2024 12:50:57 +0100
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Found it, and https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql/issues/423 seems
to answer my question, quoting what I took as the key point:

"DBD::mysql no longer builds against MariaDB. This also removes complexity.=
"

So it looks like adding DBD::MariaDB support to BioPerl is the best
solution?

Peter

On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 12:35=E2=80=AFPM Peter Cock <[email protected]=
om>
wrote:

> It sounds to me (as an interested third party observer of BioPerl), that
> there
> is value in adding a MariaDB module to Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI
> even if it is as simple as an alias or near copy of the MySQL module?
>
> It also sounds like a bug in DBD::MySQL if it refuses to work with versio=
n
> 10 (from MariaDB) by insisting on version 8. Do you know where their
> issue tracker is? I would be surprised if that has not been discussed.
>
> Peter
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 10:56=E2=80=AFAM Schlachter, Kai <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hello Peter,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for your reply.
>>
>>
>>
>> Updating of the database server process itself was no issue, also the
>> migration of the data in the database was nothing unusual =E2=80=93 this=
 is also
>> something I already did many times before in other projects.
>>
>>
>>
>> So the next step I did was trying to install DBD::mysql as per some of
>> the error messages I got from the application, this module was missing
>> (which was correct, as I started with a plain Debian container). So I tr=
ied
>> to install, but first I needed to get the mysql-config tool installed:
>>
>> apt-get install libmariadb-dev-compat
>>
>>
>>
>> After that I tried again with:
>>
>> cpanm install DBD::mysql
>>
>>
>>
>> and this failed, with the errors in the log:
>>
>> =E2=80=A6.
>>
>> DBD::mysql requires MySQL 8.x or newer for building. Version reported by
>> mysql_config --version
>>
>> : 10.11.6 at Makefile.PL line 451, <PIPE> line 3.
>>
>> -> N/A
>>
>> -> FAIL Configure failed for DBD-mysql-5.008. See
>> /root/.cpanm/work/1725256110.1036/build.log f
>>
>> or details.
>>
>> =E2=80=A6..
>>
>>
>>
>> As there is a DBD::MariaDB, I thought: Yes that one would most likely do
>> the trick and I could actually install it. For this to be used I also
>> needed to set the configuration in gbrowse to use the MariaDB Connector
>> (which is ok because this is what I just installed). However this does n=
ot
>> work out as gbrowse used Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI::mysql and now tr=
ies
>> to use Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI::MariaDB which is a module that doe=
s
>> not exist.
>>
>>
>>
>> It might be that everything just works fine if I install the mysql
>> libraries into the container, sourced from MySQL directly instead of
>> relying on Debian packages that come out of the box. But this feels kind=
 of
>> an ugly workaround.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kai
>>
>>
>>
>> *Von: *Peter Cock <[email protected]>
>> *Datum: *Freitag, 30. August 2024 um 14:29
>> *An: *"Schlachter, Kai" <[email protected]>
>> *Cc: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> *Betreff: *[Extern] - Re: [Bioperl-l] Support for MariaDB in
>> Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI::
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello Kai,
>>
>> Interesting question (although I'm viewing it from a Python and Biopytho=
n
>> perspective).
>>
>>
>>
>> https://mariadb.com/kb/en/upgrading-from-mysql-to-mariadb/ suggests this
>> should
>>
>> just work, with existing MySQL bindings treating MariaDB as a newer
>> version.
>>
>>
>>
>> It sounds like your set is breaking in the Perl module DBD::mysql?
>>
>> https://metacpan.org/dist/DBD-mysql
>>
>>
>>
>> Looking at the change log there are entries from this year, and multiple
>> mentions
>>
>> of MariaDB - so I would expect this to work:
>>
>> https://metacpan.org/release/DVEEDEN/DBD-mysql-5.008/source/Changes
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you take a look at their issue tracker
>> https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql
>>
>> and see if you've hit a known issue?
>>
>>
>>
>> Also can you double check the version of DBD::mysql you have installed?
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:15=E2=80=AFPM Schlachter, Kai <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>>
>>
>> I took over an older project to modernize the underlaying hardware /
>> software.
>>
>> This also involves the use of gbrowse, which in turn relies quite a lot
>> on BioPerl.
>>
>>
>>
>> As our freshly provided servers are all Debian based and we are highly
>> encouraged to use a most recent version of Debian inside of our containe=
rs
>> (docker), I ran into the following issue:
>>
>> Debian no longer supports MySQL but has switched to MariaDB, which leads
>> me to the following:
>>
>>
>>
>> I tried to install gbrowse, resolving all the dependencies and stuff tha=
t
>> came along. I also was able to compile the DBD::MariaDB as this is the
>> required module for MariaDB-Connections.
>>
>> However I was not able to find a Module in Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI
>> called MariaDB, there is only Mysql :(
>>
>> Although both adaptors should share at least some basic functionality, i=
t
>> is not possible to install the Mysql-Version on a recent Debian because
>> DBD::MySQL will refuse to work with mariadb because of a version mismatc=
h
>> (expected 8.x but reported 10.y).
>>
>>
>>
>> Are there any plans / ideas to add mariadb support to the modules?
>>
>> I am not an original perl programmer so I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=
=99s a good idea to
>> start implementing / contributing with such a complex thing.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kai
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Bioperl-l mailing list
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>> https://mailman.open-bio.org/mailman/listinfo/bioperl-l
>>
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>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Found it, and <a href=3D"https://github.com/perl5-dbi=
/DBD-mysql/issues/423">https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql/issues/423</a=
> seems</div><div>to answer my question, quoting what I took as the key poi=
nt:</div><div><br></div><div>&quot;DBD::mysql no longer builds against Mari=
aDB. This also removes complexity.&quot;</div><div><br></div><div>So it loo=
ks like adding DBD::MariaDB support to BioPerl is the best solution?<br></d=
iv><div><br></div><div>Peter<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">=
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 12:35=E2=80=AF=
PM Peter Cock &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">p.j.a.cock@g=
ooglemail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" sty=
le=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);paddi=
ng-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>It sounds to me (as an interested third =
party observer of BioPerl), that there</div><div>is value in adding <span l=
ang=3D"EN-US">a MariaDB module to Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI</span></div=
><div><span lang=3D"EN-US">even if it is as simple as an alias or near copy=
 of the MySQL module?</span></div><div><span lang=3D"EN-US"><br></span></di=
v><div><span lang=3D"EN-US">It also sounds like a bug in </span><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">DBD::MySQL if it refuses to work with version</span></div><div><=
span lang=3D"EN-US">10 (from MariaDB) by insisting on version 8. Do you kno=
w where their</span></div><div><span lang=3D"EN-US">issue tracker is? I wou=
ld be surprised if that has not been discussed.<br></span></div><div><span =
lang=3D"EN-US"><br></span></div><div><span lang=3D"EN-US">Peter<br></span><=
/div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_a=
ttr">On Mon, Sep 2, 2024 at 10:56=E2=80=AFAM Schlachter, Kai &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">kai.schlachter=
@dkfz-heidelberg.de</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div>





<div lang=3D"DE">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Hello Pet=
er,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Thanks fo=
r your reply.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Updating =
of the database server process itself was no issue, also the migration of t=
he data in the database was nothing unusual =E2=80=93 this is also somethin=
g I already did many times before in other projects.<u></u><u></u></span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">So the ne=
xt step I did was trying to install DBD::mysql as per some of the error mes=
sages I got from the application, this module was missing (which was correc=
t, as I started with a plain Debian container).
 So I tried to install, but first I needed to get the mysql-config tool ins=
talled:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">apt-get i=
nstall libmariadb-dev-compat<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">After tha=
t I tried again with:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">cpanm ins=
tall DBD::mysql<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">and this =
failed, with the errors in the log:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=E2=80=A6=
.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">DBD::mysq=
l requires MySQL 8.x or newer for building. Version reported by mysql_confi=
g --version</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">: 10.11.6=
 at Makefile.PL line 451, &lt;PIPE&gt; line 3.</span><span style=3D"color:b=
lack"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">-&gt; N/A=
</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">-&gt; FAI=
L Configure failed for DBD-mysql-5.008. See /root/.cpanm/work/1725256110.10=
36/build.log f</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">or detail=
s.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=E2=80=A6=
..</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">As there =
is a DBD::MariaDB, I thought: Yes that one would most likely do the trick a=
nd I could actually install it. For this to be used I also needed to set th=
e configuration in gbrowse to use the
 MariaDB Connector (which is ok because this is what I just installed). How=
ever this does not work out as gbrowse used=C2=A0Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::=
DBI::mysql and now tries to use Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI::MariaDB whic=
h is a module that does not exist.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">It might =
be that everything just works fine if I install the mysql libraries into th=
e container, sourced from MySQL directly instead of relying on Debian packa=
ges that come out of the box. But this
 feels kind of an ugly workaround.</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u=
><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Greetings=
,</span><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">=C2=A0</s=
pan><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"color:black">Kai</span=
><span style=3D"color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div style=3D"border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;b=
order-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Von: <=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black">Peter Cock &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">p.j.a.cock@googlema=
il.com</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Datum: </b>Freitag, 30. August 2024 um 14:29<br>
<b>An: </b>&quot;Schlachter, Kai&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kai.schlachter=
@dkfz-heidelberg.de" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt;<br>
<b>Cc: </b>&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"=
>[email protected]</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
g" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>
<b>Betreff: </b>[Extern] - Re: [Bioperl-l] Support for MariaDB in Bio::DB:S=
eqFeature:Store::DBI::<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello Kai,<br>
<br>
Interesting question (although I&#39;m viewing it from a Python and Biopyth=
on perspective).<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://mariadb.com/kb/en/upgrading-from-=
mysql-to-mariadb/" target=3D"_blank">https://mariadb.com/kb/en/upgrading-fr=
om-mysql-to-mariadb/</a> suggests this should<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">just work, with existing MySQL bindings treating Mar=
iaDB as a newer version.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">It sounds like your set is breaking in the Perl modu=
le DBD::mysql?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://metacpan.org/dist/DBD-mysql" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://metacpan.org/dist/DBD-mysql</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Looking at the change log there are entries from thi=
s year, and multiple mentions<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">of MariaDB - so I would expect this to work:<u></u><=
u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://metacpan.org/release/DVEEDEN/DBD-=
mysql-5.008/source/Changes" target=3D"_blank">https://metacpan.org/release/=
DVEEDEN/DBD-mysql-5.008/source/Changes</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can you take a look at their issue tracker <a href=
=3D"https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql" target=3D"_blank">
https://github.com/perl5-dbi/DBD-mysql</a><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">and see if you&#39;ve hit a known issue?<u></u><u></=
u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Also can you double check the version of DBD::mysql =
you have installed?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Peter<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 12:15=E2=80=AFPM Schlachter,=
 Kai &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bl=
ank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:non=
e none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi there,<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I took over an older project to=
 modernize the underlaying hardware / software.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">This also involves the use of g=
browse, which in turn relies quite a lot on BioPerl.</span><u></u><u></u></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">As our freshly provided servers=
 are all Debian based and we are highly encouraged to use a most recent ver=
sion of Debian inside of our containers (docker), I
 ran into the following issue:</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Debian no longer supports MySQL=
 but has switched to MariaDB, which leads me to the following:</span><u></u=
><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I tried to install gbrowse, res=
olving all the dependencies and stuff that came along. I also was able to c=
ompile the DBD::MariaDB as this is the required module
 for MariaDB-Connections.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">However I was not able to find =
a Module in Bio::DB:SeqFeature:Store::DBI called MariaDB, there is only Mys=
ql :(</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Although both adaptors should s=
hare at least some basic functionality, it is not possible to install the M=
ysql-Version on a recent Debian because DBD::MySQL will
 refuse to work with mariadb because of a version mismatch (expected 8.x bu=
t reported 10.y).</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Are there any plans / ideas to =
add mariadb support to the modules?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">I am not an original perl progr=
ammer so I don=E2=80=99t think it=E2=80=99s a good idea to start implementi=
ng / contributing with such a complex thing.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">Greetings,</span><u></u><u></u>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US">=C2=A0</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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