Re: What am I doing wrong? A bad end-user experience
Markus Peter <[email protected]>
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> Am 10.09.2026 um 14:44 schrieb Mark Blackman <[email protected]>: > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2026, at 12:48 PM, Paul "LeoNerd" Evans wrote: >> >> I use system perl. >> > > It might be an improvement to advise consumers to *avoid* user-local installations backed by system Perl every time someone does an installation that looks like a user-local installation backed by system Perl. Let's be honest. All Perl version upgrades suck. No matter whether System-Perl or some other Perl installation somewhere. The huge dependence on XS modules makes every Perl installation a nightmare. I, for example, use homebrew Perl. So far so good, but still, when I upgrade, its hours of work each time, especially if you have to cope with notorious XS modules like DBD::mysql or Image::Magick that tend to not find their include files or libs on a homebrew-based installation. Lately I switched to local::lib - just to try out whether it makes anything easier. It does not. Of course all the XS libs will become incompatible and you have a nightmare situation where even tools like cpanm will start malfunctioning and which ultimately I could only fix in a timely manner by using a vibe-coded "reinstall all problem modules" shell script, which I'll attach here. In case anybody else makes the mistake one day that local::lib will make his upgrade easier. Because I'm pretty fed up of manually fixing this stuff. A semi-stable ABI would probably be a far bigger improvement than more somewhere. I mean, Paul is not exactly a newbie. It's just that all installation paths truly suck. Though, on the other this mostly hits me on dev machines. On Linux, Debian et al do a brave job of packaging this mess. Kind regards, Markus  -- Markus Peter | SPiN AG T +49 (0) 941 942 77 0 | M +49 (0) 151 23 50 10 91 [email protected] | https://www.spin-ag.de Emmeramsplatz 5 | 93047 Regensburg HRB 6295 Regensburg | Aufsichtsratsvors.: Matthias Winkler | Vorstand: Fabian Rott Datenschutz: https://www.spin-ag.de/ds