Re: async networking (was Exploding feature set)

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Rob

On Mon, 2004-07-12 at 11:09, Mark Hahn wrote:
> Paul Prescod wrote:
> > Mark Hahn wrote:
> >
> >>>> Aside:
> >>>> I like the way twisted implements networking and
> >>>> protocols. This is not the same as saying I like the
> >>>> twisted implementation. Whether or not we need async
> >>>> networking will depend on whether prothon has the same
> >>>> problems as python when it comes to threading and so
> >>>> on. The separation of transport and (application)
> >>>> protocol is a good idea though.
> >>>
> >>> actually async programming is orthogonal to threads. See dan kegels
> >>> 10K page for some reading on this.
> >>>
> >>> (Short version: os threads @ 1 per cpu in the box, async within each
> >>> thread (which can be coroutine based as an implementation), gives
> >>> you greatest scalability).
> >>
> >>
> >> With our new stackless proposal we will have both bases covered.  We
> >> should make sure networking works well with both.
> >
> > No, I don't think so.
> 
> We should not make sure networking works well with both? :-)
> 
> We are in agreement.  I didn't mean that async IO came for free with
> stackless.  i just meant that a good async IO module should work well with
> our stackless.  From what I understand if we implement a good foundation
> then both async and sync will work on top of it.
> 
> > Tcl also has a first-class event model:
> >
> > http://wiki.tcl.tk/489
> > http://wiki.tcl.tk/1772
> > http://wiki.tcl.tk/1527
> 
> Yes, I have heard this.  Parrot steals from TCL also.
> 
> > Prothon can't do everything but if you think you might want it to be a
> > good platform for event-driven, asynch programming, it would be
> > helpful to find some Twisted experts and ask them what they would
> > like from a programming language by way of support.
> 
> Do you know any?  I can go to their website I guess and cold-email them.
> 
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