Re: How to fit a Hill model using braidrm package?

Luigi Marongiu <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.r.general
Message-ID <CAMk+s2T_zR_t7=b_36HyYiy3JA82mC8-CANWOeL2Cd1JFt9Dig@mail.gmail.com>
Hello,
it was an assembler problem of the machine. I now managed to install
the package, I tried to fit a 4 or 5 parameters model but the fitting
is not good:

```
df = data.frame(Response =    c(890.72,    890.94,    880.16,
895.46,    890.8,    884.15,
                             895.63,    887.22,    879.57,    894.72,
  888.91,    878.89,
                             895.49,    890.83,    882.27,    893.59,
  889.92,    881.59,
                             892.53,    891.76,    880.98,    895.06,
  890.32,    881.45,
                             897.21,    886.35,    876.19,    889.27,
  878.11,    868.32,
                             876.05,    866.57,    859.16,    850.53,
  857.96,    859.34,
                             862.02,    859.04,    859.73,    858.36,
  863.64,    861.19),
                Dose =    c(0.0000000015,    0.0000000015,
0.0000000015,    0.000000003,
                         0.000000003,    0.000000003,    0.000000006,
  0.000000006,
                         0.000000006,    0.000000012,    0.000000012,
  0.000000012,
                         0.000000024,    0.000000024,    0.000000024,
  0.000000048,
                         0.000000048,    0.000000048,    0.000000095,
  0.000000095,
                         0.000000095,    0.00000018,    0.00000018,
0.00000018,    0.00000038,
                         0.00000038,    0.00000038,    0.00000078,
0.00000078,    0.00000078,
                         0.0000015,    0.0000015,    0.0000015,
0.000007,    0.000007,
                         0.000007,    0.000025,    0.000025,
0.000025,    0.00005,    0.00005,    0.00005)
)
plot(Response~log10(Dose), df)
library(drc)
mod = drm(Response~Dose, data = df, fct=L.4())
plot(mod)
```
How can I set a Hill function with `drm`?
Thank you

On Thu, Sep 25, 2025 at 1:01 PM varin sacha <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> What about directly calling the model function with basicdrm library ?
>
> library(basicdrm)
>
> # Fit Hill model
> m <- drm(Response ~ Dose, data = df, fct = hillfct())
>
> summary(m)
>
> # Predict & plot
> plot(m, log = "x")
>
> Best,
> SV
>
> > Le 25 sept. 2025 à 10:12, varin sacha via R-help <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Could you paste me the exact error message you’re getting when trying install.packages("drc")
> >
> >
> >> Le 25 sept. 2025 à 09:02, Luigi Marongiu <[email protected]> a écrit :
> >>
> >> I got the same errors:
> >> ```
> >>> library(basicdrm)
> >>> findBestHill(Response~Dose, df)
> >> Error in findBestHill(Response ~ Dose, df) :
> >> could not find function "findBestHill"
> >>> evalHillEqn(Response~Dose, df)
> >> Error in evalHillEqn(Response ~ Dose, df) :
> >> could not find function "evalHillEqn"
> >> ```
> >>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 1:47 PM peter dalgaard <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> They're in basicdrm, not braidrm...
> >>>
> >>> -pd
> >>>
> >>>>> On 24 Sep 2025, at 11:52 , Luigi Marongiu <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> I have a set of data coming from a dissociation experiment
> >>>> (protein/ligand). Since the data is required to calculate the constant
> >>>> of dissociation (Kd) of this pair, I am looking for a way of fitting a
> >>>> Hill function to the data.
> >>>> I have seen that the package braidrm
> >>>> (https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/braidrm/index.html) provides
> >>>> this function, but when I launch the function `evalHillEqn`,
> >>>> `findBestHill` and so forth I get the error of function not found.
> >>>> Yet, the package is given as properly installed by the system.
> >>>> How can I run this package?
> >>>> Is there an alternative way to fit a Hill function to these data?
> >>>> Thank you
> >>>>
> >>>> ```
> >>>> df = data.frame(Response =    c(890.72,    895.46,    895.63,
> >>>> 894.72,    895.49,    893.59,
> >>>>              892.53,    895.06,    897.21,    889.27,    876.05,
> >>>> 857.96,    862.02,    858.36,
> >>>>              890.94,    890.8,    887.22,    888.91,    890.83,
> >>>> 889.92,    891.76,    890.32,
> >>>>              886.35,    878.11,    866.57,    859.04,    863.64,
> >>>> 880.16,    884.15,    879.57,
> >>>>              878.89,    882.27,    881.59,    880.98,    881.45,
> >>>> 876.19,    868.32,    859.16,
> >>>>              850.53,    853.21,    859.34,    859.73,    861.19),
> >>>>              Dose =    c(0.0000000015,    0.000000003,
> >>>> 0.000000006,    0.000000012,
> >>>>                     0.000000024,    0.000000048,    0.000000095,
> >>>> 0.00000018,
> >>>>                     0.00000038,    0.00000078,    0.0000015,
> >>>> 0.000013,    0.000025,
> >>>>                     0.00005,    0.0000000015,    0.000000003,
> >>>> 0.000000006,
> >>>>                     0.000000012,    0.000000024,    0.000000048,
> >>>> 0.000000095,
> >>>>                     0.00000018,    0.00000038,    0.00000078,
> >>>> 0.0000015,    0.000025,
> >>>>                     0.00005,    0.0000000015,    0.000000003,
> >>>> 0.000000006,
> >>>>                     0.000000012,    0.000000024,    0.000000048,
> >>>> 0.000000095,
> >>>>                     0.00000018,    0.00000038,    0.00000078,
> >>>> 0.0000015,    0.000003,
> >>>>                     0.000006,    0.000013,    0.000025,    0.00005)
> >>>> )
> >>>> plot(Response~log10(Dose), df)
> >>>> library(braidrm)
> >>>> evalHillEqn(Response~Dose, df)
> >>>> findBestHill(Response~Dose, df)
> >>>> ```
> >>>>
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-- 
Best regards,
Luigi
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