Re: Filter on future doesn't make sense

Oliver Ruebenacker <[email protected]> Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:50:56 -0400
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     Hello,

  But that's consistent with options and collections:






*scala> Some(1).filter(_ =3D=3D 0).getjava.util.NoSuchElementException:
None.getscala> Set(1, 2, 3).filter(_ =3D=3D
0).headjava.util.NoSuchElementException: next on empty iterator*
     Best, Oliver


On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Avi Levi <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ronald ,
> taking the example above
> scala>val x =3D Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D 0)
> scala>x.value
> res2: Option[scala.util.Try[Int]] =3D
> Some(Failure(java.util.NoSuchElementException: Future.filter predicate is
> not satisfied))
>
> It seems odd that a legit action such as filter yields a failure with an
> exception .
>
> Cheers
> Avi
>
>
> 2016-07-01 17:02 GMT+03:00 Roland Kuhn <[email protected]>:
>
>> Well =E2=80=A6 technically (and no, this is NOT a good idea, and hence i=
t looks a
>> little odd):
>>
>> scala> import concurrent._
>> import concurrent._
>>
>> scala> import ExecutionContext.Implicits._
>> import ExecutionContext.Implicits._
>>
>> scala> import duration._
>> import duration._
>>
>> scala> Future(42)
>> res0: scala.concurrent.Future[Int] =3D
>> scala.concurrent.impl.Promise$DefaultPromise@25bbf683
>>
>> scala> Await.ready(res0, 1.second).value.get.toOption
>> res1: Option[Int] =3D Some(42)
>>
>> scala> Await.ready(res0.filter(_ =3D=3D 1), 1.second).value.get.toOption
>> res2: Option[Int] =3D None
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Roland
>>
>> 1 juli 2016 kl. 15:18 skrev Oliver Ruebenacker <[email protected]>:
>>
>>
>>      Hello Roland,
>>
>>   Option has get, getOrElse and the possibility to match against
>> Some(value), but Future does not have these.
>>
>>      Best, Oliver
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:06 AM, Roland Kuhn <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> The difference is that Option does not have onComplete: if you restrict
>>> yourself to the Option API then Future behaves observably in the same w=
ay.
>>> If you want to have something like onComplete you should look at Either=
[NoSuchElementException,
>>> T]#fold.
>>>
>>> In general there is no .filter on monads because that would require the
>>> explicit ability to represent emptiness (which is not part of the
>>> contract); the success path for the combinators could be seen as such a
>>> representation and it is indeed often used as such, so Future is quite
>>> well-behaved in this regard. Another comment I=E2=80=99d like to make o=
n the
>>> discussed change is that it is not reasonable to expect that the result=
 of
>>> filtering returns a different type than the original one=E2=80=94no oth=
er container
>>> has this behavior.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Roland
>>>
>>>
>>> 1 juli 2016 kl. 14:54 skrev Oliver Ruebenacker <[email protected]>:
>>>
>>>
>>>      Hello,
>>>
>>>   Looks like sometimes you do get an exception:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Welcome to Scala 2.11.8 (Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM, Java
>>> 1.8.0_45).Type in expressions for evaluation. Or try :help.scala> impor=
t
>>> scala.concurrent.Futureimport scala.concurrent.Futurescala> import
>>> scala.concurrent.ExecutionContext.Implicits.globalimport
>>> scala.concurrent.ExecutionContext.Implicits.globalscala>
>>> Future{1}.onComplete { case _ =3D> println("Complete!") }scala>
>>> Complete!scala> Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D 0).onComplete { case _ =3D>
>>> println("Complete!") }Complete!scala> import scala.util.{Success, Failu=
re
>>> }import scala.util.{Success, Failure}scala> Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D
>>> 0).onComplete {     | case Success(value) =3D> println(value)     | cas=
e
>>> Failure(ex) =3D> println(ex)     | }java.util.NoSuchElementException:
>>> Future.filter predicate is not satisfiedscala>*
>>>
>>>      Best, Oliver
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 5:44 AM, Viktor Klang <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think you are conflating the notion of optionality here.
>>>>
>>>> option.filter(p).map(f).foreach(println)
>>>>
>>>> behaves exactly like
>>>>
>>>> future.filter(p).map(f).foreach(println)
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> =E2=88=9A
>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 11:36 AM, "Avi Levi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Correct, just on future you get an exception if element does not pass
>>>>> the filter. Wouldn't it be better if we can get something that expres=
s an
>>>>> empty future?
>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 12:30 PM, "Viktor Klang" <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> But you don't get an exception on the success path. All operations o=
n
>>>>>> the success path will be skipped, just as for Option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> =E2=88=9A
>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 10:35 AM, "Avi Levi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Victor ,
>>>>>>> I totally agree that expectations are subjective .
>>>>>>> But like you said a filter on List will return a List if no element
>>>>>>> comply than we will get Nil which represents an empty container (em=
pty list)
>>>>>>> a filter on option will return a option if the element doesn't
>>>>>>> comply than we will get None which represents an empty container
>>>>>>> following the same logic a filter on future should return something
>>>>>>> that express empty container , defiantly not an exception, because =
it is
>>>>>>> not an exception we do intend to filter those elements.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2016-07-01 10:50 GMT+03:00 Viktor Klang <[email protected]>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Avi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see what you mean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd want to avoid discussing expectation since it is subjective. I
>>>>>>>> will however note that the actualnsemantics of the filter method o=
n Future
>>>>>>>> needs improvement:
>>>>>>>> http://www.scala-lang.org/api/2.11.8/index.html#scala.concurrent.F=
uture@filter(p:T=3D
>>>>>>>> >Boolean)(implicitexecutor:scala.concurrent.ExecutionContext):scal=
a.concurrent.Future[T]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As for might not return the value, the same goes for all
>>>>>>>> filter-methods:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> List returns List, but it might not have any elements at all.
>>>>>>>> Option returns Option but can be Some or None, Future is either Su=
ccess or
>>>>>>>> Failure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If success has an optionality aspect in your usage, use Future of
>>>>>>>> Option to express that, that would be my recommendation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> =E2=88=9A
>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 9:20 AM, "Avi Levi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Victor,
>>>>>>>>> Of course it can be implemented as you suggested. But still I can
>>>>>>>>> argue that the current implementation is not "really filtering" t=
he results
>>>>>>>>> as one might expect and less expressive if it might or not return=
 the value
>>>>>>>>> than Option is more expressive, don't you agree?
>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 10:06 AM, "Viktor Klang" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Avi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Use Fututre[Option[Int]] if you want to deal with Some/None as a
>>>>>>>>>> result of filter ( f.map(_.filter(p) ) (alt. see monad transform=
ers)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> =E2=88=9A
>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 1, 2016 8:53 AM, "Avi Levi" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I was trying to figure out what should I accept when filtering
>>>>>>>>>> over a future .
>>>>>>>>>> the current implementation yields either a T or an exception
>>>>>>>>>> which kind of breaks referential transparency (doesn't it ?) .
>>>>>>>>>> on the other hand what can I expect given this expression
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *def foo(i:Int):Future[Int]*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the type result of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *foo(1).filter(_ % 2 =3D=3D 0)*
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I.M.H.O I would expect it to yield Option[T]  which makes more
>>>>>>>>>> sense to express that we might get a value that pass the filter =
or not . is
>>>>>>>>>> that make sense ?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> Avi
>>>>>>>>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello,<b=
r><br></div>=C2=A0 But that&#39;s consistent with options and collections:<=
br><br><b><span style=3D"font-family:monospace,monospace">scala&gt; Some(1)=
.filter(_ =3D=3D 0).get<br>java.util.NoSuchElementException: None.get<br><b=
r>scala&gt; Set(1, 2, 3).filter(_ =3D=3D 0).head<br>java.util.NoSuchElement=
Exception: next on empty iterator<br></span></b><br></div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 Best, Oliver<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Avi Levi <span dir=3D"l=
tr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">123avi@gmail.=
com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"mar=
gin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"rtl=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Ronald ,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">taking the example abo=
ve=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"ltr">scala&gt;val x =3D Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D=
 0)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">scala&gt;x.value</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">res2: Option[scala.util.Try[Int]] =3D Some(Failure(java.util.NoSuc=
hElementException: Future.filter predicate is not satisfied))</div></div><d=
iv dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">It seems odd that a legit action =
such as filter yields a failure with an exception .=C2=A0<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Cheers=C2=A0</div><span class=3D"HOEnZb=
"><font color=3D"#888888"><div dir=3D"ltr">Avi</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><=
br></div></div></font></span></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
2016-07-01 17:02 GMT+03:00 Roland Kuhn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>:<=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 .8ex;border-left:1=
px #ccc solid;border-right:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;padding-right:1e=
x"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Well =E2=80=A6 technically (and no, =
this is NOT a good idea, and hence it looks a little odd):<div><br></div><d=
iv><div><font face=3D"Courier">scala&gt; import concurrent._</font></div><d=
iv><font face=3D"Courier">import concurrent._</font></div><div><font face=
=3D"Courier"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">scala&gt; import =
ExecutionContext.Implicits._</font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">import=
 ExecutionContext.Implicits._</font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier"><br><=
/font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">scala&gt; import duration._</font><=
/div><div><font face=3D"Courier">import duration._</font></div><div><font f=
ace=3D"Courier"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">scala&gt; Futu=
re(42)</font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">res0: scala.concurrent.Futur=
e[Int] =3D scala.concurrent.impl.Promise$DefaultPromise@25bbf683</font></di=
v><div><font face=3D"Courier"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier">=
scala&gt; Await.ready(res0, 1.second).value.get.toOption</font></div><div><=
font face=3D"Courier">res1: Option[Int] =3D Some(42)</font></div></div><div=
><font face=3D"Courier"><br></font></div><div><font face=3D"Courier"><div>s=
cala&gt; Await.ready(res0.filter(_ =3D=3D 1), 1.second).value.get.toOption<=
/div><div>res2: Option[Int] =3D None</div></font></div><div><br></div><div>=
Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Roland</div><div><div><div><br><div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div>1 juli 2016 kl. 15:18 skrev Oliver Ruebenacker &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt;:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><div><br></div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello Roland,<br><br></div>=C2=A0 Option has get, getOrElse an=
d the possibility to match against Some(value), but Future does not have th=
ese.<br><br></div>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Best, Oliver<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 2016 at 9:06=
 AM, Roland Kuhn <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"=
 target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;=
padding-left:1ex"><div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">The difference is tha=
t Option does not have onComplete: if you restrict yourself to the Option A=
PI then Future behaves observably in the same way. If you want to have some=
thing like onComplete you should look at <font face=3D"Courier">Either[NoSu=
chElementException, T]#fold</font>.<div><br></div><div>In general there is =
no .filter on monads because that would require the explicit ability to rep=
resent emptiness (which is not part of the contract); the success path for =
the combinators could be seen as such a representation and it is indeed oft=
en used as such, so Future is quite well-behaved in this regard. Another co=
mment I=E2=80=99d like to make on the discussed change is that it is not re=
asonable to expect that the result of filtering returns a different type th=
an the original one=E2=80=94no other container has this behavior.</div><div=
><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Roland<div><div><br><div>=
<br><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>1 juli 2016 kl. 14:54 skrev Oliver =
Ruebenacker &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">curol=
[email protected]</a>&gt;:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div><br></div>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Hello,<br><br></div>=C2=A0 Looks like sometimes you d=
o get an exception:<br><div><div><br><b><span style=3D"font-family:monospac=
e,monospace">Welcome to Scala 2.11.8 (Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM, Ja=
va 1.8.0_45).<br>Type in expressions for evaluation. Or try :help.<br><br>s=
cala&gt; import scala.concurrent.Future<br>import scala.concurrent.Future<b=
r><br>scala&gt; import scala.concurrent.ExecutionContext.Implicits.global<b=
r>import scala.concurrent.ExecutionContext.Implicits.global<br><br>scala&gt=
; Future{1}.onComplete { case _ =3D&gt; println(&quot;Complete!&quot;) }<br=
><br>scala&gt; Complete!<br><br><br>scala&gt; Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D 0).=
onComplete { case _ =3D&gt; println(&quot;Complete!&quot;) }<br>Complete!<b=
r><br>scala&gt; import scala.util.{Success, Failure }<br>import scala.util.=
{Success, Failure}<br><br>scala&gt; Future{1}.filter(_ =3D=3D 0).onComplete=
 {<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | case Success(value) =3D&gt; println(value)=
<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | case Failure(ex) =3D&gt; println(ex)<br>=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 | }<br><br>java.util.NoSuchElementException: Future.f=
ilter predicate is not satisfied<br>scala&gt;</span></b><br><br></div><div>=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Best, Oliver<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 1, 201=
6 at 5:44 AM, Viktor Klang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:viktor.k=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wro=
te:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-=
left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">I think you are confla=
ting the notion of optionality here.</p><p dir=3D"ltr">option.filter(p).map=
(f).foreach(println)</p><p dir=3D"ltr">behaves exactly like</p><p dir=3D"lt=
r">future.filter(p).map(f).foreach(println)</p><span><font color=3D"#888888=
"><p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
Cheers,<br>
=E2=88=9A</p></font></span><div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 11:36 AM, &quot;Avi Levi&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=
=3D"ltr">Correct, just on future you get an exception if element does not p=
ass the filter. Wouldn&#39;t it be better if we can get something that expr=
ess an empty future? </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 12:30 PM, &quot;Viktor Klang&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">viktor.kl=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">But you don&#39;t get an exception on the success p=
ath. All operations on the success path will be skipped, just as for Option=
.</p><p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
Cheers,<br>
=E2=88=9A</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 10:35 AM, &quot;Avi Levi&quot; &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div di=
r=3D"rtl"><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Victor ,</div><div dir=3D"ltr">I totally agre=
e that expectations are subjective .</div><div dir=3D"ltr">But like you sai=
d a filter on List will return a List if no element comply than we will get=
 Nil which represents an empty container (empty list)</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
>a filter on option will return a option if the element doesn&#39;t comply =
than we will get None which represents an empty container=C2=A0</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">following the same logic a filter on future should return someth=
ing that express empty container , defiantly not an exception, because it i=
s not an exception we do intend to filter those elements.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">2016-07-01 10:50 GMT+03:0=
0 Viktor Klang <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span>:</div><blockquo=
te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc so=
lid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Avi,</p><p dir=3D"ltr">I see what y=
ou mean.</p><p dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;d want to avoid discussing expectation sin=
ce it is subjective. I will however note that the actualnsemantics of the f=
ilter method on Future needs improvement: <a href=3D"http://www.scala-lang.=
org/api/2.11.8/index.html#scala.concurrent.Future@filter(p:T=3D" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.scala-lang.org/api/2.11.8/index.html#scala.concurrent.Fu=
ture@filter(p:T=3D</a>&gt;Boolean)(implicitexecutor:scala.concurrent.Execut=
ionContext):scala.concurrent.Future[T]</p><p dir=3D"ltr">As for might not r=
eturn the value, the same goes for all filter-methods:</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Li=
st returns List, but it might not have any elements at all. Option returns =
Option but can be Some or None, Future is either Success or Failure.</p><p =
dir=3D"ltr">If success has an optionality aspect in your usage, use Future =
of Option to express that, that would be my recommendation. </p><span><font=
 color=3D"#888888"><p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
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=E2=88=9A</p></font></span><div><div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 9:20 AM, &quot;Avi Levi&quot; &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir=
=3D"ltr">Thanks Victor,<br>
 Of course it can be implemented as you suggested. But still I can argue th=
at the current implementation is not &quot;really filtering&quot; the resul=
ts as one might expect and less expressive if it might or not return the va=
lue than Option is more expressive, don&#39;t you agree? </p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 10:06 AM, &quot;Viktor Klang&quot=
; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">viktor.kl=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-l=
eft:1ex"><p dir=3D"ltr">Hi Avi,</p><p dir=3D"ltr">Use Fututre[Option[Int]] =
if you want to deal with Some/None as a result of filter ( f.map(_.filter(p=
) ) (alt. see monad transformers)</p><p dir=3D"ltr">-- <br>
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=E2=88=9A</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Jul 1, 2016 8:53 AM, &quot;Avi Levi&quot; &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;=
border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I was trying =
to figure out what should I accept when filtering over a future .<div>the c=
urrent implementation yields either a T or an exception which kind of break=
s referential transparency (doesn&#39;t it ?) .</div><div>on the other hand=
 what can I expect given this expression=C2=A0</div><div><p><span><i>def fo=
o(i:Int):Future[Int]</i></span></p><p><span>the type result of=C2=A0</span>=
</p><p><i>foo(1).filter(_ % 2 =3D=3D 0)</i></p><p><span><br></span></p></di=
v><div>I.M.H.O I would expect it to yield Option[T] =C2=A0which makes more =
sense to express that we might get a value that pass the filter or not . is=
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