scala-language shutting down soon

Heather Miller <[email protected]> Thu, 26 Jan 2017 11:45:12 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.scala
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Hi all,

As you may have noticed in the past year or so, activity has decreased
on scala-language (e.g., only 2 new threads in January '17, down from
6 new threads in January '16, and 16 new threads in January '15).
While there are many reasons for this, it is likely due to the
emergence of several alternative channels that tend to be more
convenient to use than this list. Along with the downtick in activity
on scala-language, we've seen an uptick over many months on the many
specialized gitter channels, in various GtiHub repositories, as well
as in our https://contributors.scala-lang.org Discourse forum/mailing
list.

While scala-language and the other specialized mailing lists
(scala-debate, scala-internals, and scala-sips) have served us well
pre-GitHub move, pre-Gitter, the coordination of different parts of
Scala have moved to different channels, and conversations are
happening in numerous other places than this list.

For that reason, we have removed signups to scala-language, and in
coming weeks we will shift scala-language to read-only. (We will do
the same for a handful of other mailing lists such as scala-internals,
scala-debate, and scala-sips). All conversations will remain archived
on Google Groups. The intended replacement for these lists is the
https://contributors.scala-lang.org Discourse forum/mailing list. So
please head over there and sign up if you're interested in
participating in discussions that previously belonged on
scala-internals, scala-sip, scala-debate, and scala-language.

As of now, these are the recommended channels for discussing Scala:

Mailing list/forum:
* Scala Contributors: https://contributors.scala-lang.org/ - a central
place for
  lasting, threaded discussions related to; development work on the
  Scala compiler, Scala Improvement Proposal discussions (proposals for
changes
  to the language or compiler), Scala Platform discussions, or
  debates/discussions typically found on scala-debate or scala-language.
There
  are tags for each of these topics in Discourse, so it's possible to
subscribe
  to only a subset of these topics.

Discourse is set up to be used in mailing list mode. That is, you
receive discussions to your inbox, and can reply to them via email.
It's also a forum that gives all kinds of statistics, upvoting, and
polls. You can do syntax highlighting etc, and posts can be written in
Markdown.

Real-time discussion:
* https://gitter.im/scala/scala - a relaxed chat room about all things
Scala.
  Library questions, language questions, etc.
* https://gitter.im/scala/center - a discussion channel about Scala
community
  governance, processes, the Scala Platform, online courses, and general
updates
  about projects and things going on at the Scala Center.
* https://gitter.im/scala/contributors - a place to Scala internals and open
  source work with contributors.

Please don't use gitter for community-wide discussions that are meant
to be persisted. Gitter is best for ephemeral discussions, quick
questions, chats, sanity checks, etc. If you want to promote a topic
for community-wide discussion that was hatched in a Gitter chat,
please do so in Scala Contributors. While Gitter is indexed by Google,
finding points made in Gitter tends to be difficult amongst all of the
other chats/jokes/etc that tend to take place there. Thus, arguments
or posts meant to be persisted belong on Scala Contributors.

Cheers,
Heather

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x"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">As of now, these are the recommended ch=
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12.8px">Real-time discussion:</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span st=
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cala" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-size:12.8px">https=
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ns, etc.</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8=
px">*=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"https://gitter.im/scala/center" rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-size:12.8px">https://gitter.im/scala/c=
enter</a><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0- a discussion channel abou=
t Scala community</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-=
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enter.</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px=
">*=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"https://gitter.im/scala/contributors" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-size:12.8px">https://gitter.im/sca=
la/<wbr>contributors</a><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0- a place to=
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=3D"font-size:12.8px">=C2=A0 source work with contributors.</span><br style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.8px">Please don&#39;t use gitter for community-wide discussions that =
are meant</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
8px">to be persisted. Gitter is best for ephemeral discussions, quick</span=
><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">questions,=
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=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">for community-wide d=
iscussion that was hatched in a Gitter chat,</span><br style=3D"font-size:1=
2.8px"><span style=3D"font-size:12.8px">please do so in Scala Contributors.=
 While Gitter is indexed by Google,</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.8px">finding points made in Gitter tends to be di=
fficult amongst all of the</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.8px">other chats/jokes/etc that tend to take place there. =
Thus, arguments</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.8px">or posts meant to be persisted belong on Scala Contributors.</sp=
an><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:12.8px">Cheers,</span><br style=3D"font-size:12.8px"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.8px">Heather</span><br></div>

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