Re: Incorporating removals & KCP stuff
Daniel Vainsencher <[email protected]> Fri, 09 May 2003 16:21:44 +0200
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Once and only once - code that affects packages should be distributed in no other way than by being in the package. This important for two reasons - 1. The package owner really should be the only one that decides about code that goes in his package. 2. If packages depend on active Harvesting of all their stuff, that slows down the maintainance of base itself, and the evolution of all packages. The opposite of what we want. Part of this is removing concerns from the Harvesters. The maximum they should worry about packages is that when packages are updated that affect a certain image brand (base, full), the maintainer of the image should have the option of making the package update itself. Of course, this can be done easily if SM in the image, which is not a problem for Base and Full. Daniel John M McIntosh <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thursday, May 8, 2003, at 04:22 AM, [email protected] > wrote: > > > > > > But the update stream is only used for code not in packages. It can > > only > > "expect" an image that doesn't have SM. Aargh. My head spins. > > > > Need to think more... > > Well any way to change the update stream logic to consider packages. > Then the update stream > could update packages if they are installed, otherwise they get > skipped. Later if you load said package > and rerun the update, it might go back and re-apply updates as needed > based on which packages > are now loaded? > > -- > ======================================================================== > === > John M. McIntosh <[email protected]> 1-800-477-2659 > Corporate Smalltalk Consulting Ltd. http://www.smalltalkconsulting.com > ======================================================================== > === > > _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation From [email protected] Wed May 14 07:44:23 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: (qmail 18834 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 07:44:23 -0000 Received: from mail.freshmeat.net (66.35.250.166) by mail.theinternetone.net with SMTP; 14 May 2003 07:44:23 -0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF197CBAA6 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.freshmeat.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 5A742CBAF2; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Joel Williams via RT <[email protected]> To: The Squeak Guides <[email protected]> Cc: X-Request-ID: 27534 X-RT-Loop-Prevention: fm X-Sender: [email protected] X-Managed-By: Request Tracker 1.0.7 (http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt) Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Squeakfoundation][fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Reply-To: Joel Williams via RT <[email protected]>, Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> List-Id: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <squeakfoundation.lists.squeakfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lnx-12.ams-2.theinternetone.net/pipermail/squeakfoundation> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:44:24 -0000 Please read the following notes regarding your project at freshmeat.net: - linux <[email protected]> has requested ownership of the freshmeat record for your project. Do you approve this change? If you are not sure what this means, please see http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/46/. Sincerely, Joel Williams <[email protected]> --- Headers Follow --- >From [email protected] Wed May 14 00:44:19 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29321CBAA6 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freshmeat.net (www4.freshmeat.net [10.2.165.4]) by mail.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2E76CBAA6 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by freshmeat.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) id A883B41804A; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT) To: [email protected] Subject: [fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak From: Joel Williams <[email protected]> Message-Id: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT) -------------------------------------------- Managed by Request Tracker From [email protected] Wed May 14 12:11:01 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: (qmail 7831 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 12:11:01 -0000 Received: from ns.bluefish.se (HELO leia.bluefish.se) (213.212.22.234) by mail.theinternetone.net with SMTP; 14 May 2003 12:11:01 -0000 Received: from [213.80.63.110] (helo=aSqueakSystem) by leia.bluefish.se with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 19Fv64-0001yL-01 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 14:11:00 +0200 X-Mailer: Celeste 2.0.4917 Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 14:10:53 +0100 In-reply-to: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation][fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]> From: [email protected] Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> List-Id: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <squeakfoundation.lists.squeakfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lnx-12.ams-2.theinternetone.net/pipermail/squeakfoundation> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:11:01 -0000 Joel Williams via RT <[email protected]> wrote: > Please read the following notes regarding your project at freshmeat.net: > > - linux <[email protected]> has requested ownership of the freshmeat record for > your project. Do you approve this change? If you are not sure what this > means, please see http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/46/. Hmmm, who is "penang"? And who registered us on Freshmeat in the first place? Cees? regards, Göran From [email protected] Wed May 14 13:57:05 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: (qmail 19382 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 13:57:04 -0000 Received: from mail.freshmeat.net (66.35.250.166) by mail.theinternetone.net with SMTP; 14 May 2003 13:57:04 -0000 Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 379A0CC297 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:57:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail.freshmeat.net (Postfix, from userid 33) id 05E81CC29B; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Ned Konz via RT <[email protected]> To: The Squeak Guides <[email protected]> Cc: X-Request-ID: 27534 X-RT-Loop-Prevention: fm X-Sender: [email protected] X-Managed-By: Request Tracker 1.0.7 (http://www.fsck.com/projects/rt) Precedence: bulk Message-Id: <[email protected]> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 06:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Squeakfoundation][fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Reply-To: Ned Konz via RT <[email protected]>, Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> List-Id: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <squeakfoundation.lists.squeakfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lnx-12.ams-2.theinternetone.net/pipermail/squeakfoundation> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:57:05 -0000 On Wednesday 14 May 2003 12:44 am, Joel Williams via RT wrote: > Please read the following notes regarding your project at > freshmeat.net: > > - linux <[email protected]> has requested ownership of the > freshmeat record for your project. Do you approve this change? If > you are not sure what this means, please see > http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/46/. Who is this person? I've never heard of them. Even more interesting, who did the Squeak listing on Freshmeat originally? It's listed as N/A. As I recall, Ted Kaehler had done it originally, but I could be wrong. Ned Konz Squeak Guide > --- Headers Follow --- > > From [email protected] Wed May 14 00:44:19 2003 > Return-Path: <[email protected]> > Delivered-To: [email protected] > Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) > by localhost.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29321CBAA6 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:19 -0700 > (PDT) Received: from freshmeat.net (www4.freshmeat.net > [10.2.165.4]) by mail.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id > D2E76CBAA6 > for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 > (PDT) Received: by freshmeat.net (Postfix, from userid 65534) > id A883B41804A; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT) > To: [email protected] > Subject: [fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak > From: Joel Williams <[email protected]> > Message-Id: <[email protected]> > Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:44:18 -0700 (PDT) > > -------------------------------------------- Managed by Request > Tracker _______________________________________________ > Squeakfoundation mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE --- Headers Follow --- >From [email protected] Wed May 14 06:57:00 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A400ECC297 for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:57:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout.whidbey.net (mailout.whidbey.net [209.166.64.124]) by mail.freshmeat.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B38BCC29A for <[email protected]>; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:56:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vdsl-72-234.whidbey.net ([209.166.72.234] helo=ned) by mail3.whidbey.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Fwhs-00054Q-00 for [email protected]; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:54:09 -0700 From: Ned Konz <[email protected]> To: Joel Williams via RT <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation][fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 06:56:28 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> X-Image-URL: http://bike-nomad.com/nedicon.jpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[email protected]> -------------------------------------------- Managed by Request Tracker From [email protected] Wed May 14 13:59:40 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: (qmail 22864 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 13:59:40 -0000 Received: from mailout.whidbey.net (209.166.64.124) by mail.theinternetone.net with SMTP; 14 May 2003 13:59:40 -0000 Received: from [209.166.72.234] (helo=ned) by mail2.whidbey.net with esmtp (Exim 4.12) id 19Fwmv-0005he-00 for [email protected]; Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59:22 -0700 From: Ned Konz <[email protected]> To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation][fm #27534] (news-admins) Submission report - Squeak Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 06:59:09 -0700 User-Agent: KMail/1.5.1 References: <[email protected]> <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> X-Image-URL: http://bike-nomad.com/nedicon.jpg MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <[email protected]> X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> List-Id: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <squeakfoundation.lists.squeakfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lnx-12.ams-2.theinternetone.net/pipermail/squeakfoundation> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 13:59:41 -0000 On Wednesday 14 May 2003 06:10 am, [email protected] wrote: > Joel Williams via RT <[email protected]> wrote: > > Please read the following notes regarding your project at > > freshmeat.net: > > > > - linux <[email protected]> has requested ownership of the > > freshmeat record for your project. Do you approve this change? If > > you are not sure what this means, please see > > http://freshmeat.net/faq/view/46/. > > Hmmm, who is "penang"? And who registered us on Freshmeat in the > first place? Cees? I *think* Ted Kaehler did, way back when. I notice that it was updated fairly recently. I don't know who "penang" is. Whoever they are, they aren't active on squeak-dev. -- Ned Konz http://bike-nomad.com GPG key ID: BEEA7EFE