Re: KCP & 3.6

Daniel Vainsencher <[email protected]> Fri, 20 Jun 2003 16:00:33 +0200
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Yes, I suspect I phrased thing very badly, somewhat assuming that people
already knew my point. Beta is a time for stabilization only. This is
why enhancements and risky fixes might not make it in. While KCP is
definitely stabilizing in the long term, deprecating stuff does create
the short term risk of breaking things, which is not appropriate to
introduce in a beta stage, because in practice it will mean that we end
up with a release that is not appropriate for demos.

Note that my intention is try to get at least part of the outstanding
KCP stuff in while we're still in alpha or early enough beta. Especially
since some of those things actually fix deprecation-related problems...

Regardless, KCP does and will continue to have a relatively easy way to
get into the image (me), at least as long as you continue to do such
great work, and I haven't started the October term. So stop worrying so
much, and continue so that we get in as much stuff as possible in 3.7
:-)

Daniel

Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
> Why daniel, if you want to get the image clean there is no way that we 
> will avoid
> to deprecate stuff. The sooner we do it the sonner we will fix 
> everything.
> So I do not understand your point.
>
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Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation]KCP & 3.6
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ok.
we were slowed down by the removals but we will continue and nathanael 
will
start been active.

Stef
On Friday, June 20, 2003, at 04:00 PM, Daniel Vainsencher wrote:

> Yes, I suspect I phrased thing very badly, somewhat assuming that 
> people
> already knew my point. Beta is a time for stabilization only. This is
> why enhancements and risky fixes might not make it in. While KCP is
> definitely stabilizing in the long term, deprecating stuff does create
> the short term risk of breaking things, which is not appropriate to
> introduce in a beta stage, because in practice it will mean that we end
> up with a release that is not appropriate for demos.
>
> Note that my intention is try to get at least part of the outstanding
> KCP stuff in while we're still in alpha or early enough beta. 
> Especially
> since some of those things actually fix deprecation-related problems...
>
> Regardless, KCP does and will continue to have a relatively easy way to
> get into the image (me), at least as long as you continue to do such
> great work, and I haven't started the October term. So stop worrying so
> much, and continue so that we get in as much stuff as possible in 3.7
> :-)
>
> Daniel
>
> Stephane Ducasse <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Why daniel, if you want to get the image clean there is no way that we
>> will avoid
>> to deprecate stuff. The sooner we do it the sonner we will fix
>> everything.
>> So I do not understand your point.
>>
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