Re: Ideas for 3.7

Hi

I like the idea of andreas too. We should take care of the people
that are doing business in Squeak, they are important.

On Thursday, July 10, 2003, at 06:10 PM, Doug Way wrote:

>
> Rather than waiting until the last minute, I thought I'd throw out some
> ideas now for things which could be part of the 3.7 plan, to get some
> discussion going.
>
> Input from everyone is welcome, although suggestions should be
> things that are already implemented and just need to be incorporated,
> or something you plan to work on yourself.
>
>
> Here's my starter list of large 3.7 items:  (some of these are 
> unfinished items carried
> over from the 3.6 plan)
>
> - Incorporate SM 1.1 which supports package versions, start working on
> dependency scheme
> - Diego's look enhancements
> - Accufonts
> - ANSI Smalltalk changes (discuss first whether we want to do this)

The idea of backward compatibility is nice as soon as it does not 
hamper changes
that are worth. so I would really like to see squeak Ansi compliant as 
soon as
possible
for example I do not know if this is related to that but #. is not 
possible in VW.
Then I would really like to get rid of caseOf... but this is another 
story.

Now for those we may think that I'm conservative, I'm not. I would like 
to have
traits at the end. I think we will have our own Smalltalk breed 
Squeaking with traits.
So I would like changes that are worth the pain.


> - Possibly add a few free TrueType fonts directly to the Basic image,
> e.g. BitStream Vera fonts? Wouldn't have to be set as the default 
> text/list
> fonts necessarily... maybe titlebar font. (also discuss)
> - Maybe remove some more packages once SM 1.1 has settled down
> - (add more here)
>
> The above items will need shepherds to make sure they get done. (I
> could handle Accufonts, TT fonts, maybe one or two others.) Smaller
> enhancements should be handled via the usual harvesting process
> (e.g. horizontal scrollbar enhancement, which I'll probably approve).
>
>
> Other items:
>
> - Decide whether the following release should be 3.8 or 4.0 (w/image
> format change), someone like Tim will need to coordinate this issue
> - Support for ISO-8859 or multibyte character sets could be considered
> if we determine that it's ready to go in... we don't want MacRoman
> forever. Or, could be in a future release.
> - I will remove all deprecated methods (senders of #deprecated*) in the
> image at the beginning of 3.7alpha, this will be a regular occurrence 
> at
> the beginning of each release. Package owners should do the same.
> (probably there aren't many deprecated methods in external packages
> right now)
>
>
> To do for 3.6 final release:
>
> - Decide whether to have just a Full image (as Daniel suggested) or 
> both a Full and Basic image as part of the release.  I agree that the 
> Full image should be the one promoted as the "default" choice for 
> newbies to try, but I don't see why we couldn't also offer the Basic 
> image as a download... it could be labeled "for developers only" or 
> somesuch.
> - Make sure all of the removed "Squeak Official" Full-distribution 
> packages are still loadable and working in 3.6.  For example, it 
> sounded like PWS was broken (see post from Joshua Gargus on 
> squeak-dev).  One option for that particular package would be to vote 
> on whether we should dump it from the distribution altogether, since 
> it's not really used by anyone.
>
>
> That's it for now, gotta run.
>
> - Doug
>
>
> p.s. I'm going out of town now until Saturday, so I won't be able to 
> respond until then.  Unfortunately I didn't have time to incorporate 
> the latest batch of approved fixes before leaving :-( but I'll get to 
> that on Saturday.
>
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