UI editor?
Timothy <[email protected]>
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Is there any UI editor in the works? I look at Squeak every so often, but I still see no way of creating user interfaces that do not require a inordinate amount of work. Morphic may be fine for animating bunnies, but what about writing a user interface? From [email protected] Tue Mar 04 05:18:42 2003 Return-Path: <[email protected]> Delivered-To: [email protected] Received: (qmail 22059 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2003 05:18:42 -0000 Received: from mailhost1-sfldmi.sfldmi.ameritech.net (HELO mailhost.det2.ameritech.net) (206.141.193.105) by mail.theinternetone.net with SMTP; 4 Mar 2003 05:18:42 -0000 Received: from riskmetrics.com ([66.72.186.201]) by mailhost.det2.ameritech.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with ESMTP <20030304051835.ZUZE8853.mailhost.det2.ameritech.net@riskmetrics.com>; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:18:35 -0500 Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 00:18:35 -0500 Subject: Re: [Squeakfoundation]re: release prioritization Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v551) To: [email protected] From: Doug Way <[email protected]> In-Reply-To: <[email protected]> Message-Id: <[email protected]> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.551) cc: [email protected] X-BeenThere: [email protected] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <[email protected]> List-Id: Discussing the Squeak Foundation <squeakfoundation.lists.squeakfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lnx-12.ams-2.theinternetone.net/pipermail/squeakfoundation> List-Post: <mailto:[email protected]> List-Help: <mailto:[email protected]?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/listinfo/squeakfoundation>, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 05:18:43 -0000 Finally catching up on some list email... On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 09:22 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Hi Hannes and all! > > Hannes Hirzel <[email protected]> wrote: > > ... >> And the list on http://swiki.squeakfoundation.org/squeakfoundation/88 >> is not terribly maintained. Last change 19-DEC-02. > > I am not sure what that list has got to do with this? That is a list of > roles that people have taken on. > Not a wishlist for people to sign up on. To make things a bit clearer, I just added some text this page saying: "If you have a strong interest in volunteering for a role (that is not already listed here or under Guide roles), please post to the Foundation Mailing List first to make your interest known." I think that's a reasonable way to handle things. After discussion it can be determined whether the proposed role makes sense, whether someone else is already doing it, etc. >> So much energy / knowhow and person-hours are >> available for bringing Squeak foward, but for reasons I'm not yet >> fully >> aware of a lot of this energy dissipates unused because of poor >> follow ups. > > There are tons of reasons. Not having everybody spewing out Swiki pages > is IMHO not one of them. > Not having a bug tracking system is one though, an important one. > Discussing in which posting I offered to set one up is not one of them > either. > > Btw, Jitterbug is a simple webbased system that could possibly work but > even though it does sound like he NIH-syndrome I actually think we > could > do better by building something integrated in Squeak - like SM. SM just > didn't lift off until it was accessible from inside Squeak. Absolutely. For a lot of things it doesn't make much sense to "reinvent the wheel", but with something like SqueakMap or a bug/bugfix tracking/harvesting system, the benefits for integrating closely with Squeak are too great too ignore. Plus a bug tracking system is not a particularly difficult wheel to reinvent. :-) - Doug Way