UI editor?

Timothy <[email protected]>
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	Is there any UI editor in the works?  I look at Squeak every so often,
but I still see no way of creating user interfaces that do not require a
inordinate amount of work.  Morphic may be fine for animating bunnies, but
what about writing a user interface?
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Finally catching up on some list email...

On Monday, March 3, 2003, at 09:22 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Hi Hannes and all!
>
> Hannes Hirzel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> ...
>> And the list on http://swiki.squeakfoundation.org/squeakfoundation/88
>> is not terribly maintained. Last change 19-DEC-02.
>
> I am not sure what that list has got to do with this? That is a list of
> roles that people have taken on.
> Not a wishlist for people to sign up on.

To make things a bit clearer, I just added some text this page saying:  
"If you have a strong interest in volunteering for a role (that is not 
already listed here or under Guide roles), please post to the 
Foundation Mailing List first to make your interest known."

I think that's a reasonable way to handle things.  After discussion it 
can be determined whether the proposed role makes sense, whether 
someone else is already doing it, etc.

>> So much energy / knowhow and person-hours are
>> available for bringing Squeak foward, but for reasons I'm not yet 
>> fully
>> aware of a lot of this energy dissipates unused because of poor
>> follow ups.
>
> There are tons of reasons. Not having everybody spewing out Swiki pages
> is IMHO not one of them.
> Not having a bug tracking system is one though, an important one.
> Discussing in which posting I offered to set one up is not one of them
> either.
>
> Btw, Jitterbug is a simple webbased system that could possibly work but
> even though it does sound like he NIH-syndrome I actually think we 
> could
> do better by building something integrated in Squeak - like SM. SM just
> didn't lift off until it was accessible from inside Squeak.

Absolutely.  For a lot of things it doesn't make much sense to 
"reinvent the wheel", but with something like SqueakMap or a bug/bugfix 
tracking/harvesting system, the benefits for integrating closely with 
Squeak are too great too ignore.  Plus a bug tracking system is not a 
particularly difficult wheel to reinvent. :-)

- Doug Way
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