Re: [Seaside] TTFB, Apache, Seaside Performance Problem

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Seems to be some trouble with the Seaside list as I replied at 12:44 but it
is like it wasn't shown or something.


"Did you try with 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost?
I see you are on Windows and I got some issues like that.

Phil"




On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 2:48 PM, Norbert Hartl <norbert-i4NnollbWplBDLzU/[email protected]> wrote:

> Your discussion was going on the seaside list? I just wonder I haven't
> seen any of the responses from Mariano et al.
>
> Norbert
>
> > Am 05.01.2017 um 13:34 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe <[email protected]>:
> >
> > I think this has to do with your particular server setup (Windows,
> Apache on Windows ?), there normally should not be any real difference
> (caching of DNS results). I am using localhost as upstream server reference
> everywhere (Linux mostly Nginx).
> >
> > Anyway, it does again show that general system admin and networking
> knowledge is always crucial and independent of specific application
> technologies used.
> >
> > BTW, thanks for this conversation, this way we can all learn some more.
> >
> >> On 5 Jan 2017, at 13:10, Sabine Manaa <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25199405/localhost-
> vs-127-0-0-1-performance
> >>
> >> 2017-01-05 13:24 GMT+01:00 Sabine Manaa <[hidden email]>:
> >> Mariano, no, there is no difference in the response time between
> localhost and 127.0.0.1
> >> I entered now the ip of the server there.
> >>
> >> Don't you think that this should be written in the book?
> >> http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/
> deployment-apache/configure-apache
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2017-01-05 12:58 GMT+01:00 Mariano Martinez Peck [via Smalltalk]
> <[hidden email]>:
> >> Wow, that's what I call to nail it! hahahaha.
> >>
> >> Norbert, do you have some explanation we could all learn from it? It's
> something concrete about Apache or is it something as general as resolving
> localhost could take longer than 127.0.0.1?
> >>
> >> Sabine, do you see a difference in the response time  when ping to
> localhost and 127.0.0.1 ?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 8:47 AM, Sabine Manaa <[hidden email]> wrote:
> >> The problem is solved: I had to replace localhost by 127.0.0.1
> >> Thanks a lot Norbert Hartl for your advice!
> >>
> >> 2017-01-05 12:25 GMT+01:00 Sabine Manaa [via Smalltalk] <[hidden
> email]>:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I need the help of the community.
> >>
> >> I am not succeding in making our app faster.
> >> The problem is the Time to first Byte (TTFB). It is always more than
> one second which is much to much.
> >> We reduced the problem to a problem between apache and pharo/seaside.
> >>
> >> For this, I have a test application which only renders "hello World".
> So I am sure it is not my code, my database, my css, my js, my ssl.... :-)
> >>
> >> I optimized and learned a lot for my app, but it did not solve the TTFB
> problem, which costs 1 additional sec for each click of the user which is
> inaceptable.
> >>
> >> Please follow this tests to see the problem:
> >>
> >> ===>>> Test 1: test.html without Pharo/seaside
> >> https://tools.keycdn.com/performance?url=http://app.
> spesenfuchs.de/test.html
> >> TTFB in Frankfurt below 10 ms -> this proves that the server and
> configuration is fast.
> >>
> >> ===>>> Test 2: hello world, simple seaside page
> >> https://tools.keycdn.com/performance?url=app.spesenfuchs.de/hello
> >> TTFB in Frankfurt more than 1 second! -> this proves that it is not my
> application :-) it is only a hello world seaside page...
> >>
> >> ===>>> Test 3: my login page
> >> https://tools.keycdn.com/performance?url=app.spesenfuchs.de/rka
> >> TTFB in Frankfurt more than 1 second!
> >>
> >> (alternative: enter the urls into https://gtmetrix.com/)
> >>
> >> In Apache, we enabled tracing of the rewrite and this tells me (i
> assume), that apache makes the rewrite very fast, within the same
> millisecond :-)
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] init rewrite engine
> with requested uri /hello
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace3] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] applying pattern
> '^/rka(.*)$' to uri '/hello'
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace3] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] applying pattern
> '^/hello(.*)$' to uri '/hello'
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] rewrite '/hello' -> '
> http://localhost:8085/HelloWorld/'
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace2] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] forcing
> proxy-throughput with http://localhost:8085/HelloWorld/
> >> [Thu Jan 05 12:14:35.243400 2017] [rewrite:trace1] [pid 1288:tid 1692]
> mod_rewrite.c(477): [client 91.89.219.232:52272] 91.89.219.232 - - [
> app.spesenfuchs.de/sid#66c848][rid#20bc4c8/initial] go-ahead with proxy
> request proxy:http://localhost:8085/HelloWorld/ [OK]
> >>
> >> So, I assume that there is problem between Apache and Seaside....
> >>
> >> My questiond are:
> >> what can I do to find the bottleneck?
> >> what is the reason that is so slow?
> >> your help is very appreciated because I have run out of ideas what it
> could be and I was investigating it several days now.
> >>
> >> Concerning the system:
> >> The server is at Amazon ec2 windows Server 2009 R2 SP1
> >> The Apache version is 2.4.23
> >> The configuration of the apache is like this (as described in the
> seaside book http://book.seaside.st/book/advanced/deployment/
> deployment-apache/configure-apache)
> >>
> >> <VirtualHost *:80>
> >>      ProxyPreserveHost On
> >>      ServerName app.spesenfuchs.de
> >>      RewriteEngine On
> >> <Directory "C:\xampp\htdocs">
> >>        Require all granted
> >> </Directory>
> >>     DocumentRoot "C:\xampp\htdocs"
> >>     RewriteCond %{DOCUMENT_ROOT}/%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
> >>
> >>    RewriteRule ^/rka(.*)$ http://localhost:8085/RKA/$1 [proxy,last]
> >>   RewriteRule ^/hello(.*)$ http://localhost:8085/HelloWorld/$1
> [proxy,last]
> >> </VirtualHost>
> >>
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> >> NAML
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> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://marianopeck.wordpress.com
> >>
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