Re: [squeakland] What makes examples good for novices? and How do we tell if an example is good for novices?

Hi...
RE the Khan Academy programming video... I have tried some of them in parallel with hands-on, and while they do teach some concepts well, they aren't particularly exciting. Perhaps that is why I stopped working on them. I really believe that the Khan Academy videos, and other video instructional videos, work best in the "flip your class" type situation. Watch the video first, individually as an introduction to a topic. Repeat and "rewind" as much as you need to feel comfortable with the subject matter. Then follow up in a "class" situation where there are other learners (and perhaps a "teacher" or mentor) to help you practice the skill or process you have been practicing. This could just be with a friend, in a club or a group of other interested learners. It might even work well with one of Sugata Mitra's "Granny" clouds. Hummm.... I wonder.... anyone want to be this Grannie''s Granny?
Caryl (aka sweetxogrannie or GrannieB)
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 01:18:47 -0500
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Subject: Re: [IAEP] [squeakland] What makes examples good for novices? and How do we tell if an example is good for novices?

Lawson,
On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Lawson English <[email protected]> wrote:


  
    
  
  
    I can't give you any stats other than positive feedback I have
    gotten, but the Salman Khan style of video teaching seems to work
    well for programming as well as for math.
I generally like the Salman Khan video's and think they have their place (flame away folks :).  The ability to watch at my your pace and on your own time is a big plus and my kids use them sometimes when they are struggling with a concept.  While it is preferable to struggle with the concepts ourselves, who has the time (or the ability) to re-construct all that knowledge. So, I think there is a role for a "good explanation."  Of course, it would be nice if he had more "Sugar" like artifacts to play and learn with.

That said I really didn't like his Programming videos.  Programming, I believe, is much better if taught with lots of hands on opportunities and problems.  Videos could be used after the learner has a chance to work on a problem. Perhaps to show different ways to solve a problem and/or Providing a Guided Tour through "good literature" (well written code) and perhaps bad as well or something like Java Puzzlers, to let kids learn where the pitfalls are and get a better understanding of how things work.


    

    My video series, Squeak from the very start, is a very conscious
    effort to duplicate his style:

    

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6601A198DF14788D&feature=view_all

    

    Friends characterize my video style as being like a mentor in a
    pair-programming session.
I like the idea of kids pair-programming although I would think you would need to set some ground rules like (the "advanced" kid can't touch the keyboard).

FYI, I like your videos and have used them for myself.
Thanks,Stephen 

    

    On 2/2/12 5:56 PM, Steve Thomas wrote:
    So I am taking a P2PU course On How
        to Teach Web Programmin to Free Range Learners and a couple
      of questions came up:

      

      So I pose them to the community:

      
        What makes examples good for novices?
        How do we tell if an example is good for novices?
      
      Also where can I find a good set of examples for learning
        programming?

      
      It would be nice to have a curated set of "Great literature".
      Pointers to any research on the topic would be appreciated.

      
      Stephen

      
      

      
      

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