Re: VM images and working in the VM image

Not to mention the time saving, when looking at the entire project 
life-cycle.  In my experience, as a project lives on it has more and more 
requirements for logging and changing things while the system is running.  
The Smalltalk saves time by having this all set up before you even start, 
instead of being pieced in over years.

http://sixtyk.blogspot.com/2007/02/watching-watchmen.html

>From: Colin Putney <[email protected]>
>Reply-To: [email protected]
>To: [email protected]
>Subject: Re: VM images and working in the VM image
>Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 10:40:09 -0700
>
>
>
>On May 12, 2007, at 5:47 PM, Ted Neward wrote:
>
> > Case in point: ST's notion of the IDE-in-the-image is pretty lame when
> > looking to deploy an image within a "headless" environment. Is
> > there another
> > approach when trying to build a server? Surely when running
> > Seaside, for
> > example, I don't want or need the overhead of the IDE hanging
> > around.... It
> > might be useful in certain scenarios, but most of the time, it's
> > just going
> > to be useless overhead....
>
>Not at all. It's true that you don't want useless overhead, but the
>space-to-utility tradeoff of the IDE is excellent. I can't count the
>number of times I've solved problems in a running server using the
>IDE. With Seaside/Squeak, it's an especially nice combination,
>because you can connect to the "headless" Squeak image with VNC, and
>get at the IDE that way. On the other hand, the "overhead" pretty
>small. A production image for a Seaside server I'm running is under
>12 MB. That includes the IDE, versioning system, VNC server,
>application code and libraries. It's hard to say how much of that is
>the IDE, but it can't be much.
>
>Colin
>
>>

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