Re: Tomcat or PHP in ST ?

Making seaside work on strongtalk would certainly be interressing.
We'll look into it when we make squeak bridges. As I said, I doubt
continuation semantics is the biggest problem we'll face. As seaside
is headless, it would be a good test for the linux strongtalk, too.
But don't expect anything production-ready in the near future, the
first steps are to explore the design space and implement proof of
concepts...

regards,
prunedtree

On May 14, 10:37 pm, "J J" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Ah, thanks for the info.  Is there a plan to put continuations in some other
> way then?  Seaside did the stack copy trick just to simply have
> continuations, but if another way was provided, I'm sure it would work as
> well.
>
>
>
> >From: prunedtree <[email protected]>
> >Reply-To: [email protected]
> >To: Strongtalk-general <[email protected]>
> >Subject: Re: Tomcat or PHP in ST ?
> >Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 00:41:36 -0000
>
> >The issue is mainly that it uses dialect-specific code
> >(thisContext...), not the semantics it uses.
>
> >There are going to be some limits to continuation support in
> >strongtalk simply because strongtalk supports callbacks, and thus you
> >can get volatile frames on the stack. Expecting that you can blindly
> >serialize anything in a system that interacts with the external world
> >doesn't sound like a good idea.
>
> >On May 13, 9:45 pm, "Jim Haungs" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > The entire continuation mechanism in Seaside is about 30 lines of code.
> >The
> > > only VM trick it depends on is capturing thisContext and then restoring
> >it
> > > later.
>
> > > On 5/13/07, J J <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > >From: "David Griswold" <[email protected]>
> > > > >Reply-To: [email protected]
> > > > >To: <[email protected]>
> > > > >Subject: RE: Tomcat or PHP in ST ?
> > > > >Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 14:48:58 +0200
>
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [email protected]
> > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of azgolfer
> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 7:24 PM
> > > > > > To: Strongtalk-general
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Tomcat or PHP in ST ?
>
> > > > > > So, how hard would it be to port SeaSide to Strongtalk ? Seems
> >like
> > > > > > you wouldn't need the GUI. Also, what kind of scalability/
> > > > > > multithreading does SeaSide have ?
>
> > > > >The issue with Seaside is that it serializes the context stack to
> >model
> > > > >continuations, which is definitely not what I would call trivially
> > > > portable
> > > > >Smalltalk.
>
> > > > >-Dave
>
> > > > Can Strongtalk do this?  Or support continuations in some other way?
>
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jason
>
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