RE: Future of Dolphin Survey

J J <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Sep 2007 06:49:48 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.strongtalk
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Haha.  Someone asks a simple obvious question and it turns into a religious battle about open source vs. closed source.

Look, we need both.  I would personally always open source languages and general purpose libraries.  In retail this is called a "loss leader".  That is, you take a loss to get people in the door, but gain customers you wouldn't have had at all otherwise.  In software you gain the added benefit that others can collaborate on your work and make the product better.

And you also need closed source software (e.g. applications).  Not all of us aspire to have the opportunity to be chained to a cubicle programming the same boring, already solved problems for the next 40 years, no matter what programming language.  And the argument of "just open source the software and sell support" is not valid either.  There is a limited, crowded space for such work and having worked for a few years in support for large companies, it is the last place I want to be.

There is nothing immoral about making money doing what you love to do.

Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 16:21:51 +0700
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Future of Dolphin Survey



There is more than one path to compensation. I want companies and developers to have easy access to a good open smalltalk vm. This could cause an environment where more are willing to risk studying and using the language. This could turn into more jobs. Who would be more of an expert than the lead developers? See where I'm going?  Long-term, not short term gain.


Anyways, cheers to Strongtalk and Squeak on their open licenses. Let's work together to create the type of environment we want.

On 9/6/07, Mark Haniford <
[email protected]> wrote:
Jason Shoemaker wrote:
>
>  Isn't having to pay a lot of money to have access to smalltalk source

> what hurt smalltalk so much in the first place?  The authors of
> Dolphin would rather see it die than help the smalltalk community.
> Why reward that kind of attitude?
>
The bad attitude is the one expressed above.  The Dolphin guys spent a

good chunk of their lives invested in building Dolphin and have every
right to be compensated.

 







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