Re: Status of Strongtalk C++ code: VM stability and progress on a graphical debugger

To everyone who wants something useful to come of Strongtalk:

> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: Status of Strongtalk C++ code: VM stability and progress on a
> graphical debugger
> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:06:37 -0700
>
> I myself am not working on it right now, primarily because I'm busy
> with other things, and because the VM is not multi-threaded and it would
> be
> very hard to make it so, which limits my interest in it.

>If you mean "make it so" as in "make it have the multi-thread model Java
>has" then in my opinion it would be a waste of effort to ever do that.  Now
>what Erlang has would be great and I would expect to be much easier to add
>to the VM.

Can we discuss this at length and reach a resolve?

I want to get into the details, evaluate the choices for a
concurrency
model, make a small, concrete, realistic plan, and then execute it.

Or,  I can keep fixing and extending VW, as I have for the last 14
years
(not so bad, but not good either).

Or,  I can cave into Java's readiness for making real, multithreaded
apps
with good-looking GUIs.  Java makes me think of  lots of people, doc,
examples, help, descent standards--and a language with crappy sytax
(and
other problems) to clog your read-think path and keep you from your
expressive best.

>That is lots of information out there as to why the currently popular brand
>of "concurrency" is bad and needs to go away.  Systems that don't have it
>now shouldn't be making huge efforts to add it, but rather just go right
>into more advanced stuff.

Let's get into it and do something.

What is currently wrong with Java's concurrency model?

What is Erlang's concurrency model and why is it better?


Shaping
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