Re: Status of Strongtalk C++ code: VM stability and progress on a graphical debugger

Hi,
To answer your question - how stable would Strongtalk have to be before we'd
use it - very stable. We intend to ship commercial products on the Newspeak
platform, and if the Strongtalk VM is to be used as a basis, it has to be
production quality. I believe that once the ball gets rolling , this isn't
that far away. I also realize it's a chicken and egg problem.

As far as tools - I am not concerned with the state of the debugger. We
would layer the Newspeak GUI and IDE (including the debugger) on top of the
VM, and do whatever adaptations needed to make that work. I don't think
there's an awful lot that would be needed: our FFI is very similar to
Strongtalk's, so binding our GUI to Strongtalk should be very doable. There
are the basics of debugger support in Strongtalk already, including
activation mirrors, so again, I'm optimistic on that front.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 6:54 PM, talksmall <[email protected]>
wrote:
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> I know Gilad has said that he can't justify devoting resources to VM
> hacking, and I can understand that, but how stable do you need the VM
> to be before you would consider using it as a base? What tools support
> would you require? For example, would you need an interactive debugger
> before you would consider using it? Equally are there any areas that
> are particularly unimportant? Please consider what you can actively
> contribute to the improvement of Strongtalk. Even if that doesn't
> include fixing issues with the VM, identifying the areas that cause
> problems that prevent you from using Strongtalk as a base would help.
>
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-- 
Cheers, Gilad

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