Re: Status of Strongtalk C++ code: VM stability and progress on a graphical debugger

Shaping <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Jun 2008 23:01:13 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.strongtalk
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I've been meaning to respond to this since first seeing it. (I've been
very busy learning about the VM and building a new box.)

I did some reading.  Curl is very interesting.  I very much want a
graphically rich web-client experience.  Has anyone actually used Curl
and been able to observe something about its strengths and weaknesses?


Shaping


On May 18, 10:58 am, "Robert Shiplett" <[email protected]> wrote:
> There would now be an opportunity to run on the Curl NITRO Runtime from
> curl.com
>
> They are in the process of relaxing the license
>
> Most users are in Korea, Japan and India.  I am hoping to add China and
> various former Soviet republics to that list ..
>
> I have tried to interest Rebol3 in running on NITRO
>
> We need something Smalltalk-like and we are already typed (Curl)
>
> Robert
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 1:12 PM, leonsmith <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > God, I'm glad I found this forum. I have been hand-porting the Windows
> > source to Ubuntu using the Anjuta IDE to help create the make files
> > and dependencies and I was pulling my hair out.I'll get the code from
> > svn.
>
> > A general question: Is anyone preparing to offer commercial support
> > for this ? To ever get serious consideration companies will have to
> > believe that there is an organization behind Strongtalk.
>
> > On Mar 4, 3:36 am, talksmall <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > You will find the most recent instructions for building the code on
> > > the Wiki -http://code.google.com/p/strongtalk/wiki/Building. I have
> > > only used VC++ 2K5 Express to build under Windows. You can ignore the
> > > part of the instructions that refer to the assembler sources and
> > > the .obj files. These are no longer required. prunedtree has ported
> > > the assembler code to the built-in macro assembler within the
> > > Strongtalk binary. One of the first things the VM does on start up is
> > > to generate the code for the interpreter and stub routines that used
> > > to be written in assembler.
>
> > > As for a project file, I don't do much work in Windows; my interest is
> > > in the Linux port. When I do some work in Windows I have tended to
> > > construct the project file from scratch.
>
> > > I would suggest working with the gcc-linux branch. Although, as it's
> > > name suggests, it is the home of the Linux port, I have made efforts
> > > to ensure that the code continues to run under Windows as well. In
> > > order to use this you will need a copy of a compatible image and
> > > sources. These can be found on the download page of the Wiki -
> >http://code.google.com/p/strongtalk/downloads/list. This image can be
> > > used by both the Windows and Linux versions of the VM.
>
> > > As to VM stability, the interpreter appears to be reasonably stable.
> > > The recompiler is another matter, at least under Linux. Since so
> > > little of the code is OS dependent, I imagine the story is probably
> > > quite similar under Windows, but I haven't really tested that
> > > assumption. Most of the issues I have seen appear to be related to non-
> > > local returns from blocks (I discovered this while writing a pure
> > > Smalltalk implementation of ANSI exception handling that relies
> > > heavily on NLRs).
>
> > > Regards, talksmall
>
> > > On Mar 4, 7:04 am, Shaping <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > This link seems to refer to a build involving Assembler. I thought
> > > > that all of this was recently removed and converted to C++.
>
> > > > Shaping
>
> > > > On Mar 3, 10:34 pm, "Krzysztof Kowalczyk" <[email protected]>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Shaping <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >  What about a complete procedure for building from the latest C++
> > > > > >  (pure) source?
>
> > > > > Pretty detailed instructions are in the source code:
>
> > > > >http://code.google.com/p/strongtalk/source/browse/trunk/README.txt
>
> > > > >-- kjk
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