Re: New binaries

Dave Mason <[email protected]> Tue, 29 Dec 2009 07:55:41 -0800 (PST)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.strongtalk
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Thanks Dave et al,

Is there a recipe/script anywhere that builds that image from the
source code?  If so, it would presumably be not too difficult to strip
it down to build an image without the Windows (or any) UI (presumably
with an alternate error handler).

I would find that far more accessible than trying to run in Windows
via Fusion (in my 36 year career, I've probably spent less than a
dozen hours on Windows - so I'm a bit crippled in that environment)

This is exciting!  There is some work on a SeasideXUL UI, and I have a
grad student who will be working on a portable Seaside UI (a la Web
Velocity), so I'm not very interested in porting the existing UI.  I'm
also very interested in building web servers without any UI.

On Dec 23, 11:50=A0pm, David Griswold <[email protected]>
wrote:
> In fact, the Strongtalk image in this respect is the same as GNU. =A0The =
image
> is simply another form of the source code. =A0No non-programmatic objects=
 are
> kept in the image, no global/class/etc variable state is saved etc. =A0Th=
e
> image can always be recreated exactly from the source code. =A0It is that=
 way
> exactly because I always hated that image hysteresis (history dependence)
> problem in ST-76.
> -Dave
>
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 9:53 AM, John Cowan <[email protected]> wrote:
> > In GNU Smalltalk, an image is just a binary cache of loaded source
> > files: there are no bits in an image that aren't the result of loading
> > source code. =A0As such, it is more like a Java .jar file than a
> > traditional ST image.
>
> > IIRC, there are bits in the Squeak image that result from global
> > assignments done under ST-76.
>
> > On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 10:02 AM, talksmall <[email protected]=
m>
> > wrote:
> > > Hi Dave,
> > > Not sure exactly what you mean. I'm not familiar with GNU Smalltalk.
>
> > > talksmall
>
> > > On Dec 22, 7:48 pm, Dave Mason <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >> Good to see someone's still working on Strongtalk - thanks Stephen! =
I
> > >> installed VMWare Fusion on my MacBook to explore Strongtalk under
> > >> Windows, but I can't seem to get to it.
>
> > >> Is it possible to create a version blowing away most of the image an=
d
> > >> building it up a la GNU Smalltalk? =A0I think I'd find that much mor=
e
> > >> approachable.
>
> > >> Thanks =A0../Dave
>
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