Re: 9.0 refusing to run on Ubuntu

Fair to say, but we can’t seem to rely on different Linux distros to support any particular font display standard.  So I do think that some sort of fallback font, bitmapped, outline or whatever else, is not a bad idea.

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> On Jul 18, 2022, at 2:39 AM, Karsten Kusche <[email protected]> wrote:
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> I think it would be much less crazy to assume VisualWorks would support non-bitmap fonts out of the box in 2022 on Linux. Why is XFT not the default and bitmap fonts an option? The whole font-system is still implemented as if True-Type fonts were an exception and bitmap fonts were the norm.
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> Am 16. Juli 2022 um 15:57:58, [email protected] ([email protected]) schrieb:
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>> It wouldn't be crazy to have an in-memory bitmap font that could be 
>> used as a fallback for any operating system. After all, Smalltalk 
>> included fonts from the beginning. Or, perhaps there is a free public 
>> domain font that could be included in the distribution? 
>> 
>> The XFT stuff works, but you have to load it *before* you have a problem. ;) 
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>> Quoting Tom Robinson <[email protected]>: 
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>> > Helge, 
>> > 
>> > I remember seeing a font problem like this a long time ago on a 
>> > different operating system. Would it make sense for Cincom to add an 
>> > error message to the VM so that Linux users could fix this problem 
>> > themselves? Saying that it's a font problem and what fonts are 
>> > needed would make this a trivial problem. 
>> > 
>> > With Ubuntu 22.04 this could get worse, since now Wayland is the 
>> > default, not X. I'm out of the loop on anything that Cincom might be 
>> > doing in this area... 
>> > 
>> > Tom 
>> > 
>> > On 7/15/22 01:14, Nowak, Helge wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> Dear Gregory, 
>> >> 
>> >> did you check whether the respective Ubuntu installation has the 
>> >> X.Org fonts installed? VisualWorks requires these. 
>> >> 
>> >> Currently I have the following combinations working without a problem: 
>> >> 
>> >> * Ubuntu Mate 19.10: VisualWorks 8.3, 8.3.2 and 9.1 
>> >> * Ubuntu Mate 21.04: VisualWorks 9.1.1 and 9.2 
>> >> 
>> >> Thus, I don’t know about your specific combo Ubuntu 
>> >> 18.04/VisualWorks 9.0 but don’t expect issues there. Or, you update 
>> >> both your OS and VisualWorks 😉 
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>> >> HTH 
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>> >> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 15. Juli 2022 01:31 
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>> >> VisualWorks(R) 9.0 Aug  8 2019 
>> >> src/mman/mmScavenge.c:2488 
>> >> Fatal error: Cannot tenure object. 
>> >> Out of memory. 
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>> >> Here is the Ubuntu version info: 
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>> >> *gregory@se-legs*:*~/vw90*$ lsb_release -a 
>> >> No LSB modules are available. 
>> >> Distributor ID: Ubuntu 
>> >> Description:    Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS 
>> >> Release:        18.04 
>> >> Codename:       bionic 
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