Re: Digital Twin applied to Software

Colin Sare-Soar <[email protected]> Tue, 8 Nov 2022 15:09:07 +0700 (ICT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.smalltalk.vwnc
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This all sounds rather complicated for what would be achieved in the end. 
It isn't Smalltalk and therefore a bit out of the scope of this board but I thought I should mention Pyside6 in respect of prototyping in an interpreted language (Python) and running with C++ libraries (Qt) accessed from within Python code.
Maybe something similar could be done with SmallTalk which seems to be what you are suggesting in your final paragraph.

> On 08/11/2022 13:59 +07 andre <[email protected]> wrote:
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> As said, there is no formal mapping. 
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> One could enforce a common denominator (design patterns) at both ends, like shared pointers for all objects, only virtual methods at the C++ end and strong typing at the Smalltalk end. In reality it get's a lot more complex than that (need for class-side virtual methods, reflection).
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> That would rob each side of its unique advantages. You would get something a C++ compiler can compile, but not C++. Not much would be left of the performance gain. 
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> The new Smalltalk compiler would have to deal with strong typing and the exceptions and dependency management it implies. It'd be a new language.
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> Porting Smalltalk to C++ involves a lot of deep thought and manual work that can be assisted by tools only to some extent. Porting C++ to Smalltalk is even more daunting (almost impossible, I would say) except for simple classes and domains.
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> Another approach is to embedd a Smalltalk interpreter or VM into a C++ application. That way you get a solid foundation with dynamic extensibility. Should work fine for CAD.
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> Andre
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> --
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> > On 7. Nov 2022, at 03:57, Aik-Siong Koh <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > Andre:
> > 
> > You understand my Digital Twin idea perfectly. Your statement sums it all:
> > "The ideal case for using both languages together might be to explore uncharted terrain with Smalltalk and port to C++ after a sound architecture has settled."
> > 
> > Anyone doing this systematically? How to promote Digital Twin? How to turn this Smalltalk advantage into a business?
> > 
> > I am applying idea to Pharo and OpenCascade to create Digital Twins of CAD software. Any feedback or interest would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > All the best,
> > Aik-Siong
> >