Re: Trying to get PUL for VW

I suppose one could also install an old VW8.3-compatible OSX, such as Yosemite, in a separate volume and run VW off of that.  Has anyone tried that?

> On Dec 28, 2023, at 4:42 AM, Maarten Mostert <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Hello,
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> If you have VMware fusion or parrallels you should be able to run the 32 bit version in Windows 11- Arm64.
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> Notice that you have to install the updated VisualStudio 15 prerequisites which you can do from the link below.
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> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://learn.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170*visual-studio-2015-2017-2019-and-2022__;Iw!!DZ3fjg!4Bg-UwrS5LWLZkn4xjVrFYx-KzU1XWmT-oV1MV-RoB2ZNXcKRMpDLkTAbR47NzDJwelWpl198O_a85pVp7vEDg$  <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://learn.microsoft.com/en-US/cpp/windows/latest-supported-vc-redist?view=msvc-170*visual-studio-2015-2017-2019-and-2022__;Iw!!DZ3fjg!_abvhSge03EkmG2dWhVtaM4rrVafUoUaWiQArcBh1E-v24tmDZtGvAN2mzRIGNCQcspW2AFOxsLmicdGGTC3-ZOUpb5XZQ$>
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> You have to delete existing occurrences vcruntime140.dll if existing inside your win/bin directory.
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> Be careful to choose the X86 version not the arm once.
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> It goes to all the emulation stuff, so very slow compared to lighting fast native versions, but it comes up and it can give you a good impression.
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> Maarten,
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>> On 27 Dec 2023, at 19:20, Charles Monteiro <[email protected]> wrote:
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>> For some reason Cincom is not supporting PUL and that decision most probably comes from a higher authority than Cincom Smalltalk.
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>> That’s Cincoms call.
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>> So to play with VisualWorks that will cost about 500 bucks per year. 
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>> I pay about 160 for IntelliJ per year and it’s not Smalltalk. 
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>> Would I pay for more than twice that ? Maybe.
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>> Cincom is not in the promote Smalltalk business at least not via gaining popularity via open source and the like strategies.
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>>  of course Pharo is , which has overall become a pretty impressive option. When I used it more heavily I became a consortium member and sent them 100 bucks.
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>> 
>> Thanks
>> On Dec 27, 2023 at 12:58 PM -0500, Richard Hildebrant <[email protected]>, wrote:
>>> Francisco,
>>>     Let us know if you find a relatively low cost way of running VW on the latest OSX.  I don’t believe there is such a way.  It doesn’t appear to be in Cincom’s business interest.  It has been many years since the PUL was upgraded to VW8.3, and I don’t expect that to change any time soon, if ever.  Pharo may be a better way to go at this point.
>>> 
>>> Rick
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>>>> On Dec 27, 2023, at 12:03 PM, Francisco Garau <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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>>>> Hello -- I find it hard to believe that running VW on the latest OSX is no longer possible unless you have a valid commercial licence. 
>>>> 
>>>> I have VW 8.3 installed with a Personal Use Licence that doesn't work under  Sonoma 14.1.2
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>>>> Can somebody contact me if there is any way of requesting a PUL or similar for VW 9.x 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Francisco
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 10 Mar 2023 at 14:00, Bob Tucker <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>> Sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I've been trying to get a PUL from Cincom for VW.  I've been using various flavors of smalltalk for over 30 years and currently use an older commercial version for work.  I'm planning on retiring in the next year or so but want to keep my hand in it since I enjoy working with smalltalk.
>>>> 
>>>> Requesting a PUL has basically fallen into a black hole with no correspondence.  Anyone have suggestions on how to get it?
>>>> 
>>>> TIA
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> -B-
>>>> 
>>>> "People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who are doing it"
>>>> - George Bernard Shaw
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