Re: Multiple Inheritance / Generated Hidden Code
andre <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Aug 2025 12:39:22 +0200
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Thanks everyone for your input.=20 I am aware of Traits in Pharo but was specifically looking for something = made for VisualWorks. Sorry if I wasn't clear about this. I will have a = closer look if some of it could be ported. A light-weight "Interfaces" utility I have implemented already checks = specific protocols for completeness. It's better than nothing, but if it = was extended to a more comprehensive inheritance system, it would = seriously impact runtime performance which is already at the limit of = what most users can tolerate. Hence the idea of compiling derived code. David: I agree that hidden code is not ideal as Smalltalk can't properly = separate it from the rest. A custom compiler looks like a much better = idea. Thanks for pointing this out. It could handle this without = cluttering the image. But as you noted it's a huge effort that's = probably not a rewarding investment at this time. > You are trying to do static analysis. Absolutely. I'm very familiar with Smalltalk and its paradigms. At the = same time I'm working on media applications in C++ with probably the = most complex UIs you can imagine, which, thanks to MI, is surprisingly = effective and productive. So I'm trying to merge the best of both = worlds.=20 Static analysis is extremely helpful later in the product cycle = (deployment, maintenance), while dynamic agility is best at the = beginning (prototyping, modeling, experimentation). Spending 50% of = development time in the debugger doesn't sound like a good deal when = static analysis reliably catches all cases within seconds. There are = other reasons why C++ often is a pain.