Re: JNIPort - is there anyone willing to maintain it?
Colin Sare-Soar <[email protected]> Fri, 3 Oct 2025 20:10:11 +0700 (ICT)
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------=_Part_90434_1545007235.1759497011123 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's all changed today! Cincom have released PUL v9 I've applied for a copy, just waiting for the email now :-) =20 Colin > On 25/09/2025 00:31 +07 Thomas Sattler <[email protected]> wrote= : > =20 > =20 > Joachim, > =20 > Cincom has basically abandoned the VWNC distribution. The "latest" versi= on one can obtain without paying for a license is VW 8.3, which was release= d in 2017. > =20 > it's hard to imagine people spending a lot of time and effort enhancing a= system that old, when the vendor isn't committed to it. I'm sure Cincom i= s committed to the paying customers, but why should we help with that? > =20 > --Tom > =20 > =20 >=20 >=20 > On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 4:36=E2=80=AFAM Joachim Geidel <joachim.geidel@po= steo.de <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > Dear fellow Smalltalk= ers, > >=20 > > JNIPort is an interface from Smalltalk to the Java VM which was origina= lly developed by Chris Uppal for Dolphin Smalltalk. It enables Smalltalk ap= plications to use software written in Java seamlessly, locally and with low= overhead, without resorting to network based interfaces like e.g. using mi= croservices. Documentation is at https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sites.= google.com/site/jniport/__;!!DZ3fjg!9JVpDqpxcqz6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Y= d6Gm-8j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_d-WBWHHLFGX2ohB5doAnD8eNKbqwGQFahg$ . > >=20 > > I have ported JNIPort to VisualWorks and Pharo, and Ben van Dijk, Adria= an van Os and Rolf van der Vleuten have ported it to VASt (https://urldefen= se.com/v3/__https://vastgoodies.com/projects/JNIPort__;!!DZ3fjg!9JVpDqpxcqz= 6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Yd6Gm-8j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_d-WBWHHLFGX2oh= B5doAnD8eNKbql_CqFlw$ ). > >=20 > > The last time I really worked on JNIPort was in 2014, if I remember cor= rectly. Now that I am retired and haven=E2=80=99t written a single line of = Smalltalk code in five years, I am wondering if there is anybody willing to= take over. > >=20 > > I haven=E2=80=99t had any enquiries about JNIPort since 2020, so the ta= sk would be easy: > > - Take over ownership of the documentation site. > > - Possibly move the source code for the Pharo version to Gitlab (it is = still in the ancient SmalltalkHub repository). > > - Optionally integrate any changes from JNIPort users, e.g. when they a= dapt it to more recent versions of VisualWorks or Pharo. There hasn't been = any community input since 2017 (or was it 2019?). > >=20 > > If nobody takes over, then JNIPort will be one of the many abandoned op= en source projects and disappear sooner or later when SmalltalkHub, the Cin= com Public Repository and the documentation site are switched off. > >=20 > > On the other hand, I do not know if there is actually anybody using JNI= Port. If it has no users, there is no harm in its disappearance, and mainta= ining it would be a waste of time. > >=20 > > Cheers > > Joachim Geidel >=20 ------=_Part_90434_1545007235.1759497011123 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!doctype html> <html> <head> <meta charset=3D"UTF-8"> </head> <body> <div> That's all changed today! Cincom have released PUL v9 </div> <div class=3D"default-style"> I've applied for a copy, just waiting for the email now :-) </div> <div class=3D"default-style"> </div> <div class=3D"default-style"> Colin </div> <blockquote type=3D"cite"> <div> On 25/09/2025 00:31 +07 Thomas Sattler <[email protected]> wro= te: </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> <div dir=3D"ltr"> Joachim,=20 <div> </div> <div> Cincom has basically abandoned the VWNC distribution. The "lates= t" version one can obtain without paying for a license is VW 8.3, which was= released in 2017. </div> <div> </div> <div> it's hard to imagine people spending a lot of time and effort enhancin= g a system that old, when the vendor isn't committed to it. I'm sure = Cincom is committed to the paying customers, but why should we help with&nb= sp;that? </div> <div> </div> <div> --Tom </div> <div> </div> <div> </div> </div> <br> <div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"> <div class=3D"gmail_attr" dir=3D"ltr"> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 4:36=E2=80=AFAM Joachim Geidel <<a class=3D= "keychainify-checked" href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">joachim.geid= [email protected]</a>> wrote: </div> <blockquote> Dear fellow Smalltalkers, <br> <br> JNIPort is an interface from Smalltalk to the Java VM which was origin= ally developed by Chris Uppal for Dolphin Smalltalk. It enables Smalltalk a= pplications to use software written in Java seamlessly, locally and with lo= w overhead, without resorting to network based interfaces like e.g. using m= icroservices. Documentation is at <a class=3D"keychainify-checked" href=3D"= https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sites.google.com/site/jniport/__;!!DZ3f= jg!9JVpDqpxcqz6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Yd6Gm-8j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_= d-WBWHHLFGX2ohB5doAnD8eNKbqwGQFahg$" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noopener">htt= ps://urldefense.com/v3/__https://sites.google.com/site/jniport/__;!!DZ3fjg!= 9JVpDqpxcqz6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Yd6Gm-8j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_d-W= BWHHLFGX2ohB5doAnD8eNKbqwGQFahg$</a> . <br> <br> I have ported JNIPort to VisualWorks and Pharo, and Ben van Dijk, Adri= aan van Os and Rolf van der Vleuten have ported it to VASt (<a class=3D"key= chainify-checked" href=3D"https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://vastgoodies.c= om/projects/JNIPort__;!!DZ3fjg!9JVpDqpxcqz6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Yd6Gm-= 8j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_d-WBWHHLFGX2ohB5doAnD8eNKbql_CqFlw$" target=3D"= _blank" rel=3D"noopener">https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://vastgoodies.co= m/projects/JNIPort__;!!DZ3fjg!9JVpDqpxcqz6oMahTzP21-BTpfMxRHsi1HUS30Yd6Gm-8= j4kRcgBOLmg6z342WonIj_duRg_d-WBWHHLFGX2ohB5doAnD8eNKbql_CqFlw$</a> ). <br> <br> The last time I really worked on JNIPort was in 2014, if I remember co= rrectly. Now that I am retired and haven=E2=80=99t written a single line of= Smalltalk code in five years, I am wondering if there is anybody willing t= o take over. <br> <br> I haven=E2=80=99t had any enquiries about JNIPort since 2020, so the t= ask would be easy: <br> - Take over ownership of the documentation site. <br> - Possibly move the source code for the Pharo version to Gitlab (it is= still in the ancient SmalltalkHub repository). <br> - Optionally integrate any changes from JNIPort users, e.g. when they = adapt it to more recent versions of VisualWorks or Pharo. There hasn't been= any community input since 2017 (or was it 2019?). <br> <br> If nobody takes over, then JNIPort will be one of the many abandoned o= pen source projects and disappear sooner or later when SmalltalkHub, the Ci= ncom Public Repository and the documentation site are switched off. <br> <br> On the other hand, I do not know if there is actually anybody using JN= IPort. If it has no users, there is no harm in its disappearance, and maint= aining it would be a waste of time. <br> <br> Cheers <br> Joachim Geidel </blockquote> </div> </blockquote> </body> </html> ------=_Part_90434_1545007235.1759497011123--