Re: Is Microsoft's Avalon XAML the end of HTML?

Laurent Jouanneau <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lang.xul.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>

Gerald Bauer wrote:
> Hello,
> 
>   allow me to highlight the latest interview with
> Miguel de Icaza, co-founder of Gnome, Ximian and Mono.
> 
>   Miguel writes:
> 
> Microsoft realises today that Linux is competing for
> some of the green pastures that it's been enjoying for
> so long; I think that Longhorn is a big attempt to
> take back what they owned before. Longhorn has kind of
> a scary technology called Avalon, which when
> compounded with another technology called XAML, it's
> fairly dangerous. And the reason is that they've made
> it so it's basically an HTML replacement. The
> advantage is it's probably as easy as writing HTML, so
> that means that anybody can produce this content with
> a text editor.
> 
> It's basically an HTML Next Generation. A lot more
> widgets, a lot more flexibility, more richer
> experience - way, way richer experience. You get
> basically the native client experience with Web- like
> deployments. So you develop these extremely rich
> applications but they can be deployed as easily as the
> Web is. It's just like going to a URL: you go to
> Google, and you get the Web page and it works. So it's
> the same deployment model but the user interface
> interaction is just fantastic.
> 
> Of course, the only drawback is that this new
> interaction is completely tied to .Net and WinFX. So
> we see that as a very big danger. A lot of people
> today cannot migrate to Linux or cannot migrate to
> Mozilla because a lot of their internal Web sites
> happen to use IE extensions. Now imagine a world where
> you can only use XAML.
> 
> It's massive - I'm so scared.
> 
> Source:
> http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2004/04/28/interview_with_miguel_de_icaza_cofounder_of_gnome_ximian_and_mono.html
> 
>   What's your take on it? Do you buy the official
> Microsoft party line that Avalon XAML is *not* a HTML
> Next Generation thingy at all but that Avalon XAML is
> just a new way to build Windows 2007 applications and
> that's it. Or are you scared like Miguel because
> Avalon XAML is so massive? Do you think anybody cares?
> 
>     Let us know what you think. 
> 
>    - Gerald


Miguel and other should stop smoking cocaïne ! :-)

The goal of HTML and the goal of XAML/XUL are very very very different.

HTML : to publish content
XAML/XUL : to do user interface for application.

XAML or XUL will replace HTML, but only in web *application*. Not in web 
*site*.

keep this distinction in mind.

HTML/XHTML will exist for many and many and many years... (with 
evolution of course, but philosophy of HTML will be keeped).

-- 
Laurent Jouanneau
http://ljouanneau.com
http://xulfr.org        developpez des applis Mozilla
http://openweb.eu.org   pour les standards du web


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