Re: Jon Perez on XUL and Python

I don't know whether the parts of Mozilla are over engineered or not, 
however, it would be interesting to build portable cross platform GUI's 
in an XUL like manner. I looked recently at portable GUI toolkits such 
as wxPython and PyQt and I already wondered if there would be an easier 
way to do i, like XUL for Python applications.
Gerald, I don't find the post on the python mailing list, can you give 
me a hint of the subject or date?

Thanks,

Karl


Gerald Bauer wrote:

>Hello,
>
>  Jon Perez writes on the python mailinglist:
>
>Still, what I think would appeal to a lot of people
>(although they might not know it yet) as a GUI
>solution for Python is Mozilla XUL with all the RDF
>and XPCOM crap surgically removed from it.
>
>If you've ever tried a couple of basic XUL tutorials,
>I think you would be convinced that XUL is an even
>better way to develop GUIs than visual RAD tools.
>
>After years of doing web apps, I feel the DHTML/DOM
>approach as applied to GUI creation is superior in
>terms of learning curve, productivity and ease of code
>maintenance to imperative language, event-driven,
>IDE-coupled frameworks like Delphi, Windows Forms or
>Swing... except for the fact that the HTML widgets (if
>you could even call them that) are very primitive.
>
>XUL essentially gives you full fledged GUI widgets and
>allows you to script them from Javascript the same way
>you script HTML elements via DOM or DHTML (very
>easily, in other words).  Now, imagine being able to
>use Python instead of Javascript... sounds like a
>match made in heaven to me.
>
>Unfortunately, the Mozilla developers are too
>enamoured with Javascript and RDF and XPCOM to realize
>that XUL (which is really shaping up beautifully if
>you look at Firefox and Thunderbird) is the real star
>in their stable and many people would like to use it
>without being forced to deal with the other
>complicated, overengineered technologies surrounding
>it.  
>
>  Source:
>http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.general/381625
>
>  Do you agree with Jon Perez that there's not much
>value in Mozilla XUL as long as its bound to the
>overengineered RDF, XPCOM, XPInstall, XPFE, XBL and so
>on machinery?
>
>  - Gerald
>
>
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