Re: slow startup on windows

I figured it out...

While I'm not running "other third party virus protection", I do
have real-time protection turn on. I added my program as a
exception and now it starts up fine...

Sorry for wasting your time.



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 8:27 AM
To: Roland Hughes <[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Foxgui-users] slow startup on windows

On 2023-04-26 06:02, Roland Hughes via Foxgui-users wrote:
> Captain Obvious has some stupid questions:
> 
> 1) Do you have an "automatic update" feature in your program
such that 
> once per week/month/etc. it reaches out to Internet location
looking 
> for a new version of itself? This can really hang an
application.
> 
> 2) Does your application in any way use the Internet or
network? I'm 
> asking because many such applications either have to refresh 
> certificates or they keep a DNS cache. (Firefox is notorious
for
> this.) The DNS cache has to be flushed and refreshed after a
time 
> period and/or if the host IP address changes . . . A laptop
connecting 
> to a different wifi router can cause the IP address to change.
> 
> 3) Do you run Norton, McAfee, or other third party virus
protection.
> That whole "we check every file to keep you safe" promise they
make is 
> a bit of a Clinton Truth. On a full scan they check them for
sure. If 
> you download and run an executable for the first time they
check them, 
> yes. The Clinton Truth comes in the second through N-th time it
is 
> run. Results of the file scan get cached. File size,
timestamps, name, 
> path, etc. all gets put into a database with either an
expiration date 
> or a current timestamp (sometimes both). Most of these programs
limit 
> the size of this cache otherwise it would consume much of your
disk 
> due to people downloading, running something once, and
deleting. The 
> entries could never go away unless they are flushed on full
scan or 
> expiration. When your executable no longer has an entry in this
cache 
> it is a first time run. The size of your executable matters
little.
> It's the terabytes of DLLs your application utilizes that
really kill 
> you here, because each of them have to be scanned before you
can run.
> 
> You can confirm #3 easily. Set up a fresh Windows install,
disabling 
> Microsoft Malware and antivirus and don't install any other 
> protection. Run your executable. First through N-th time should
load 
> at roughly the same speed.

Somewhere, somebody has developed a number of scripts that
"debloat"
Windows 10.  I always run some of these on fresh install, to get
rid of the telemetry, unnecessary background chugging processes,
etc.

These definitely streamlined my Windows10 experience a lot.  On
some days, it feels *almost* as fast as Windows XP ;-)



           - JVZ




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