Re: Fox toolkit future?

LOL,

Sorry to take so long to respond. I read it a bit before 5am here, but 
had to wait until we had a combine running in the wheat to take the 
time. I can respond now while waiting for the first load into the drying 
bin.

 >So Linus Torvalds and his Linux project is wrong, then?

Linus has been wrong about many things. I have a friend that still meets 
to have lunch with him at least once each year who used to work for him 
on Linux itself. RPM packaging was and still is mostly a nightmare. The 
tools on Fedora make it almost manageable. Debian packaging is vastly 
superior so Linus hates Debian.

One minor nit here. Linus went to college.

https://www.computinghistory.org.uk/det/1790/Linus-Torvalds/

Okay, two minor nits. Linus is no longer part of Linux.

https://blog.desdelinux.net/en/linus-torvalds-deja-el-desarrollo-de-linux-y-pide-disculpas/

Personal interactions definitely are not his strong suit.

 >What about the PHP, Python, and countless other large projects?

I don't touch PHP or Python. They are script-kiddie tools and I work on 
medical devices. You cannot use anything that isn't type safe.

 >Microsoft saw at least some value in purchasing GitHub after all, yeah?

Microsoft buys a lot of stupid things. I love Malcolm Berko. One of the 
most level headed financial advisors to ever put pen to paper. He was 
gone too soon.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/business/columns/2016/08/25/malcolm-berko-america-first-rank-speculation-but-good-one/25589200007/

 > What about Git itself, since Linus created it especially FOR Linux, 
since he had that feud with Perforce?

See comment about his RPM packaging above. He still has a feud with 
Debian yet Ubuntu is the most popular Linux desktop.

Oops! It appears Mint, a YABU that does more testing than Canonical, has 
now become the most popular.

https://www.tecmint.com/top-most-popular-linux-distributions/

 > Would you want be willing to open an issue and tell them that their 
contributors never went to college?

Someone probably should.

I realize I pushed a button with you Robert and I'm sorry for that. I 
guess when one works on things that do not matter it also does not 
matter if you went to a good school and were taught how to properly 
create safe code. The trouble is, they get to thinking they can do 
anything and that is when tragedy really strikes.

When I worked on the IP Ghoster project (you won't find much on it, was 
sold to Navy Seals I'm told) the guy writing the checks to fund it was 
Bill Gates' next door neighbor. He made the guy ramrodding the project 
bring me on and keep me through the end. We also had Mr. Keith from 
Texas. I'm good, Mr. Keith is astounding, especially when it comes to 
going from high level UI down to the internals of the encryption code we 
were using.

Ramrod decided he was going to recruit from Git for everyone else. He 
interviewed them and was impressed with how many LeetCode (sp?) projects 
they had completed. Going to be a great asset!

We went through 60 of them in just shy of 4 months.

Bill Gates' neighbor took his money away and told him to make do with 
the two of us because that's all he would pay for from that point on.

IP Ghoster was a secure Internet communications platform that 
dynamically routed through Open Proxy servers on the Internet. The 
parallel path being funded by some other entity (might have been CIA) is 
what you know as TOR. Both are still in use.

I'm sorry if I pushed a button, and I wish this tale was my only run-in 
with Git developers. It's not, just the only one I can talk about.

The only reason I experimented with Fox was because of its potential to 
be used in medical devices. This means code has to be bullet proof. This 
quote from the goals page is what drew me to product.

---

I care a great deal about software quality; I imagine, so do you.  In 
the course of my programming life, I have ran into many situations where 
the bugs I needed to fix were not in my own code, but in someone else's, 
and of course I didn't have the source. Thus, the quality of my own 
software was limited by the quality of someone else's.  Problem is, the 
developers of the libraries and software I depend on are frequently not 
motivated to make their software correct.

---

The vast majority of OpenSource UI libraries do not care about quality, 
in particular Qt does not. Just look at the tens of thousands of open 
bugs in their bug database. The kids all want the coolest features and 
want it to run on the latest phones, none of them want to actually fix 
their own bugs.

Y'all can have your grampa view of SourceForge if you want. I look there 
first to find things which are stable and proven. On Git I find last 
night's failed build sandwiched between never-made-it-ware and abandonware.

Everybody have a great weekend. I'm now done on this topic.

Oh, I guess one parting shot is in order.  Y'all need to check the email 
address for this list.

[email protected]

Like I said, stable. It may not have everything I want, but it is stable.

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