Re: the Linux man-pages as an educational tool
Alejandro Colomar <[email protected]> Sun, 2 Aug 2026 23:34:40 +0200
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--oxi5iqsvxt4eseua Content-Type: text/plain; protected-headers=v1; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Alejandro Colomar <[email protected]> To: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <[email protected]> Cc: Collin Funk <[email protected]>, "G. Branden Robinson" <[email protected]>, Paul Eggert <[email protected]>, [email protected], bug-gnulib-mXXj517/[email protected], libc-alpha-9JcytcrH/[email protected] Subject: Re: the Linux man-pages as an educational tool Message-ID: <am-2d02e1qq78Asv@devuan> References: <am50AM0bdufHa9W3@devuan> <15288158.RDIVbhacDa@cagnes> <am56ZBzNM5J07AUa@devuan> <f3f50282-8f40-449b-87c2-5df85fbfdc4e-764C0pRuGfqVc3sceRu5cw@public.gmane.org> <am6CnOddgaM10pry@devuan> <20260802000833.zpu27l7ibvrbouna@illithid> <am6PkypxYg-Fq4Iz@devuan> <[email protected]> <am6X32HkGdm2xTd7@devuan> <alpine.DEB.2.21.2608022219530.55540-Y5e7+nPLV1YHIiu7SO6vbVpr/1R2p/[email protected]> MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.21.2608022219530.55540-Y5e7+nPLV1YHIiu7SO6vbVpr/1R2p/[email protected]> Hi Maciej, > Date: 2026-08-02 22:23:36+0100 > From: "Maciej W. Rozycki" <[email protected]> > > What problem are you trying to fix anyway, what's wrong with=20 > using <string.h> for the APIs in question? Programmers misunderstand these functions (some more than others), and think they are appropriate for handling strings in ways that they are inappropriate. If <string.h> was described as providing functions that exclusively handle strings, then programmers that only need to handle strings would naturally self-limit to functions from this header file. Those programmers that need more niche memory functions --maybe because they need to handle a substring, or maybe because they need to handle a utmp(5) fixed-width null-padded character array-- can resort to <memory.h>, but that comes with the implied warning that those functions are not the simple interfaces that <string.h> probides; they are sharper: you can do more with them, but you need to be more careful. Most programmers can live in the safe bubble of <string.h>: those functions always require a string as input, and always provide a string as output. Plain and simple. It's difficult to write bugs when using those. That's the rationale. Have a lovely night! Alex >=20 > Maciej --=20 <https://www.alejandro-colomar.es> --oxi5iqsvxt4eseua Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCgAdFiEES7Jt9u9GbmlWADAi64mZXMKQwqkFAmpvt+oACgkQ64mZXMKQ wqnsFRAAmh6lhP/G7x0QI9eH97AyMg814jLxZPuaofNbqLhUIoD2vpqjP5HvWlIV 2T0KU54So4Wx6T9gcMwmYo4NbubkyMQknAbTvl14U5/TpiMUydE29PTb4lfKO4m1 kJgwOOoqZEWGUR4HoJ2qoN8KYJ/U/uyeU+Oj6Hsy7TvzDgsg6H8IW3YA8vFSrG4b wZXqHpzSFOih4AgS7xyaJ3H3xfvMea7nnTFHLD5KW9ecD41Y2mvW6u0NiOLl2jgq uYKnXiuaRAk5HmUZSDmne2ECC2hCWWjOFdQ/jr/+eNTTOhmA5N9bZP9Rg4uQpGP3 2OjF00lY0t/XVMMaxS8KCs5rKu9iYEij77fsf0h+lw3UgibiwZp75q/Qo9IRdCN1 Az4baWj0Wre0GHf1my44Lq/s8QAlCsnI9+ISoQuMpq9/3yU7Eu0rDVWGnEbXTG0n 0o2q041Hh5GXWlS0vhvJ1PPPaXOx7KX08Hlpmj3de75hiUOJMmBPyIvOihcAhFJY +eN7L97wGwz20ehjFLujYYphkk7V7HidjvUJH8mReetI8T5+gFgKZ0b7txOOyr9F +Qbpo79VH7KYQoPCIDMsXere8WtxykkdfqDPIhDtSUsZhqEmWzM0iKzAUiE7HdaH sDIxkyOJUbAExdVzkgD8cFF+pqdH+MhDV6c0kKPGqiV5GcF8W/U= =UEWm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --oxi5iqsvxt4eseua--