Re: apps-gnustep Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3
Thomas Wawra <[email protected]> Tue, 16 Feb 2010 15:45:45 +0100
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--===============0942590616== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d7ef38f3a316047fb8c9cc --0016e6d7ef38f3a316047fb8c9cc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi I tried to start GWorkspace with openapp the following lines appeared fswatcher [4691] register client 2 fswatcher [4691] Connection became invalid fswatcher [4691] No next in enumerator (3 times) Segmentation fault (core dumped) I am using the following versions: freebsd 8.0 gnustep-base-1.19.3 gnustep-gui-0.17.1 gnustep-back-0.17.1 gworkspace-0.8.7 Can someone help? Thanks thomas 2010/2/16 <[email protected]> > Send apps-gnustep mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of apps-gnustep digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: State of the 'Step (Dirk Olmes) > 2. Re: State of the 'Step (Gregory Casamento) > 3. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan) > 4. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan) > 5. Problem : openapp: command not found (Thomas Wawra) > 6. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan) > 7. Re: Problem : openapp: command not found (J. Jordan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:29 +0100 > From: Dirk Olmes <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: State of the 'Step > To: "J. Jordan" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > Zipper, wish it did not depend on Renissance, put an * in for the > > filename to gunzip to a directory. > > Would you care to elaborate? While chances are low that I'll get rid of > the dependency on Renaissance, I'd like to hear about any bugs in Zipper. > > -dirk > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:26:33 -0500 > From: Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: State of the 'Step > To: "Ronald C.F. Antony" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Fred Kiefer <[email protected]>, > [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Ronald, > > You're preaching to the choir here on this one. Any ideas how to make > that happen? I would love to get up to date packages everywhere. > > Thanks, GC > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Ronald C.F. Antony <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Even more to the point: unless there are simple GnuStep meta-packages for > the major BSD and Linux distributions that are reasonable > "click-install-run" easy, most of the effort going into GNUStep is wasted, > because except for a few nostalgic exNeXT users and a few developers, nobody > is going to use it. > > I didn't have time to play with GNUStep for ages, but I keep following > the development from a distance, but think about it for a moment: if KDE or > something like it would require that level of involvement just to get going, > do you think it would have the sort of adoption it has now? > > > > Ronald > > > > On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:34, Fred Kiefer wrote: > > > >> Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But being a > >> developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-( > >> Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep from SVN? > >> (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS then this > >> was a very old version of GNUstep) > >> > >> And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch system for > >> GNUstep that didn't make it upstream? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Discuss-gnustep mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > > > > > > -- > Gregory Casamento > yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa > (240)274-9630 (Cell) > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:39:35 +0100 > From: "J. Jordan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: State of the 'Step > To: Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <7f853c69fec70046d69e635b7fffcf87@DV3-2150us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" > > Fred, > > Well to be honest nothing worked using the SVN version of > base/back/make/gui, GNUMail, GWorkspace, Terminal all immediatly > segfaulted on launch. I don't really see that as an issue, SVN is > going to be broken from time to time and watching the IRC channel > there is enough action going on that breakage is going to occur. > > That being said, GNUstep has been in development for 15 years, are the > current efforts primarily aimed at making it a clone of OSX? I f the > concept is to allow OSX applications to be easily ported to GNUstep > then that is a good plan but if the intent is to develop for OSX > without needing a MAC then I think it is doomed to fail. For me it is > all about the applications. I really like the look and feel of > GNUstep, the concepts of services, bundles and frameworks really make > sense and they are NOT well implemented on the MAC. The time is > perfect for a third FLOSS desktop, KDE has gone off on the Windows > tangent and is gaining many new users but it is loseing power-users in > droves, Gnome is Gnome and will always be Gnome, you either love it or > hate it, I hate it. Verticle menus and a verticle dock courtesy of > Windowmaker make more sense now than ever before considering the > almost universal move to wide-screen monitors. I am not a purist, I > am not saying we should be locked to the OpenStep API of 15 years ago, > there has been a lot of progress in the computer world, wifi, > bluetooth, ACPI, none of tose things were around back then. I like > the square-gray look but recognize that others do not so making things > skinnable makes sense, just allow me to keep the look I like. > > Saying that GNUstep is nothing but a development environment is a bit > of a cop-out, like taking 15 years of development. hundreds of > thousands of hours of work and equating it to Visual-Basic. It is > like saying, that you build hammers that can only be used to build > more hammers, never any houses. > > Please don't think that I don't appreciate the efforts of the > base/back/gui developers, without them nothing works. > > Over the last couple weeks reading the mailing lists including > archives I have gotten the impression that most GNUstep developers > don't really use GNUstep, they don't use Project Center for > development, they don't use GNUMail, they do use Gorm which explains > its comparative advanced state but of course Gorm is not needed for > base/back/make development. > > Users need applications, applications require application developers, > application developers need a stable API, 15 years is a long time. > > -j > > On 2010-02-14 22:34:15 +0100 Fred Kiefer <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But being a > > developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-( > > Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep from SVN? > > (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS then > > this > > was a very old version of GNUstep) > > > > And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch system for > > GNUstep that didn't make it upstream? > > > > Fred > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:03:34 +0100 > From: "J. Jordan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: State of the 'Step > To: Dirk Olmes <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], [email protected] > Message-ID: <88b0191cc22592118cd8c79825e089e3@DV3-2150us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" > > Dirk, > > I did not find any real bugs in Zipper, the one issue I had was that > when you attempt to decompress a tarball with multiple files Zipper > expects you to give it a filename instead of just pointing at the > directory to put the files in. I discovered through trial and error > that if I put an asterisk in for the filename then the OK button will > become enabled. Could probably have fixed that issue myself if Zipper > had a Gorm editable GUI. > > Zipper works well and is important enough to me that I installed > Renaissance just so I can use it. > > -j > > On 2010-02-15 14:34:29 +0100 Dirk Olmes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Zipper, wish it did not depend on Renissance, put an * in for the > >> filename to gunzip to a directory. > > > > Would you care to elaborate? While chances are low that I'll get rid > > of > > the dependency on Renaissance, I'd like to hear about any bugs in > > Zipper. > > > > -dirk > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:09:55 +0100 > From: Thomas Wawra <[email protected]> > Subject: Problem : openapp: command not found > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: > <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hi, > > I tried to run an app with the command: openapp in windowmaker on a freebsd > 8.0 machine. > > Then : openapp: command not found appeared. > > > Does anyone knows how to solve the problem? > > > Thx > Thomas > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/apps-gnustep/attachments/20100216/70de0dfe/attachment.html > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:29:27 +0100 > From: "J. Jordan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: State of the 'Step > To: Gregory Casamento <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected], Fred Kiefer <[email protected]>, > [email protected], "Ronald C.F. Antony" <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <6d666f4b82ca23fdba12c57fa1ba7152@DV3-2150us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" > > Gregory, Ronald, et al, > > The Debian folks actually do a pretty good job of maintaining an > easily installed workable group of GNUstep applications. I don't use > them because I want to modify some of the apps with my own icons and > adjust the UI using Gorm, also want to be able to install updated apps > easily. Debian changes the installation path so mixing and matching > is a hassle. > > I think it would be great if we could come up with a system to > identify applications that are known to build and run on a certain > base/back/gui. Perhaps it could be tied to the version of Startup so > that a few weeks before a new version of Startup is released it goes > into to feature lock giving Application developers a chance to certify > their apps against that version of Startup. Perhaps a numbering > scheme like "GWorkspace-0.8.7-cert-0.22.0.tgz" could indicate that > this is the 0.8.7 version of GWorkspace and THIS tarball has been > demonstrated to compile and run on the default installation of > Startup-0.22.0. It would of course be best if more than one person > tests the app. Then Etoile, Debian, BSD, etc. could use those > versions as a starting point to mod for their distributions, of course > passing any bugs and patches upstream. Maybe GAP could host the > certified version of the applications if they were willing. > > -j > > > > On 2010-02-15 22:26:33 +0100 Gregory Casamento > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ronald, > > > > You're preaching to the choir here on this one. Any ideas how to make > > that happen? I would love to get up to date packages everywhere. > > > > Thanks, GC > > > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Ronald C.F. Antony > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> Even more to the point: unless there are simple GnuStep > >> meta-packages for > >> the major BSD and Linux distributions that are reasonable > >> "click-install-run" easy, most of the effort going into GNUStep is > >> wasted, > >> because except for a few nostalgic exNeXT users and a few > >> developers, > >> nobody is going to use it. > >> I didn't have time to play with GNUStep for ages, but I keep > >> following the > >> development from a distance, but think about it for a moment: if KDE > >> or > >> something like it would require that level of involvement just to > >> get > >> going, do you think it would have the sort of adoption it has now? > >> > >> Ronald > >> > >> On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:34, Fred Kiefer wrote: > >> > >>> Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But being a > >>> developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-( > >>> Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep from > >>> SVN? > >>> (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS then > >>> this > >>> was a very old version of GNUstep) > >>> > >>> And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch system for > >>> GNUstep that didn't make it upstream? > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:36:39 +0100 > From: "J. Jordan" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: Problem : openapp: command not found > To: Thomas Wawra <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Message-ID: <451e59d06d3e12b9015f8fa4cf595ce7@DV3-2150us> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format="flowed" > > You probably do not need to use the openapp command. I am not a BSD > user but on Linux you can use the name of the application (they have > been installing symlinks for a while). to run GWorkspace just type > GWorkspace, capitalization is important and many GNUstep apps use > CamelCase. You may also try "open GWorkspace" and if all else fails > go inside the directory GWorkspace.app and use ./GWorkspace or > whatever the executable is. > > -j > > > On 2010-02-16 11:09:55 +0100 Thomas Wawra <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I tried to run an app with the command: openapp in windowmaker on a > > freebsd > > 8.0 machine. > > > > Then : openapp: command not found appeared. > > > > > > Does anyone knows how to solve the problem? > > > > > > Thx > > Thomas > > _______________________________________________ > > apps-gnustep mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > apps-gnustep mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep > > > End of apps-gnustep Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3 > ******************************************* > --0016e6d7ef38f3a316047fb8c9cc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi<br><br>I tried to start GWorkspace with openapp<br><br>the following lin= es appeared<br><br>fswatcher [4691] register client 2<br>fswatcher [4691] C= onnection became invalid<br>fswatcher [4691] No next in enumerator (3 times= )<br> Segmentation fault (core dumped)<br><br>I am using the following versions:<= br><br>freebsd 8.0<br>gnustep-base-1.19.3<br>gnustep-gui-0.17.1<br>gnustep-= back-0.17.1<br>gworkspace-0.8.7<br><br>Can someone help?<br><br>Thanks<br> thomas<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/2/16 <span dir=3D"ltr"><<= a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= </a>></span><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: = 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;= "> Send apps-gnustep mailing list submissions to<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= g</a><br> <br> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnust= ep" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep</a= ><br> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">apps-gnuste= [email protected]</a><br> <br> You can reach the person managing the list at<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">apps-gnustep-= [email protected]</a><br> <br> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br> than "Re: Contents of apps-gnustep digest..."<br> <br> <br> Today's Topics:<br> <br> =A0 1. Re: State of the 'Step (Dirk Olmes)<br> =A0 2. Re: State of the 'Step (Gregory Casamento)<br> =A0 3. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan)<br> =A0 4. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan)<br> =A0 5. Problem : openapp: command not found (Thomas Wawra)<br> =A0 6. Re: State of the 'Step (J. Jordan)<br> =A0 7. Re: Problem : openapp: command not found (J. Jordan)<br> <br> <br> ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 1<br> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:34:29 +0100<br> From: Dirk Olmes <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dirk@xanthip= pe.ping.de</a>><br> Subject: Re: State of the 'Step<br> To: "J. Jordan" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= >[email protected]</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Message-ID: <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">4B794D6= [email protected]</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DUTF-8<br> <br> > Zipper, wish it did not depend on Renissance, put an * in for the<br> > filename to gunzip to a directory.<br> <br> Would you care to elaborate? While chances are low that I'll get rid of= <br> the dependency on Renaissance, I'd like to hear about any bugs in Zippe= r.<br> <br> -dirk<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 2<br> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:26:33 -0500<br> From: Gregory Casamento <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">gre= [email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: State of the 'Step<br> To: "Ronald C.F. Antony" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= ">[email protected]</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, Fred = Kiefer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>,<= br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">discuss-gnustep@= gnu.org</a><br> Message-ID:<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<<a href=3D"mailto:8aefa2351002151326n123d7866r7dec58538= [email protected]">[email protected]= mail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3DISO-8859-1<br> <br> Ronald,<br> <br> You're preaching to the choir here on this one. =A0Any ideas how to mak= e<br> that happen? =A0 I would love to get up to date packages everywhere.<br> <br> Thanks, GC<br> <br> On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Ronald C.F. Antony <<a href=3D"mailto:r= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > Even more to the point: unless there are simple GnuStep meta-packages = for the major BSD and Linux distributions that are reasonable "click-i= nstall-run" easy, most of the effort going into GNUStep is wasted, bec= ause except for a few nostalgic exNeXT users and a few developers, nobody i= s going to use it.<br> > I didn't have time to play with GNUStep for ages, but I keep follo= wing the development from a distance, but think about it for a moment: if K= DE or something like it would require that level of involvement just to get= going, do you think it would have the sort of adoption it has now?<br> ><br> > Ronald<br> ><br> > On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:34, Fred Kiefer wrote:<br> ><br> >> Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But being a= <br> >> developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-(<br> >> Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep from S= VN?<br> >> (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS then= this<br> >> was a very old version of GNUstep)<br> >><br> >> And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch system f= or<br> >> GNUstep that didn't make it upstream?<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Discuss-gnustep mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>= <br> > <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep" targ= et=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep</a><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> --<br> Gregory Casamento<br> yahoo/skype: greg_casamento, aol: gjcasa<br> (240)274-9630 (Cell)<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 3<br> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 10:39:35 +0100<br> From: "J. Jordan" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m">[email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: State of the 'Step<br> To: Fred Kiefer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]<= /a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Message-ID: <7f853c69fec70046d69e635b7fffcf87@DV3-2150us><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3D"fl= owed"<br> <br> Fred,<br> <br> Well to be honest nothing worked using the SVN version of<br> base/back/make/gui, GNUMail, GWorkspace, Terminal all immediatly<br> segfaulted on launch. =A0I don't really see that as an issue, SVN is<br= > going to be broken from time to time and watching the IRC channel<br> there is enough action going on that breakage is going to occur.<br> <br> That being said, GNUstep has been in development for 15 years, are the<br> current efforts primarily aimed at making it a clone of OSX? I f the<br> concept is to allow OSX applications to be easily ported to GNUstep<br> then that is a good plan but if the intent is to develop for OSX<br> without needing a MAC then I think it is doomed to fail. =A0For me it is<br= > all about the applications. =A0I really like the look and feel of<br> GNUstep, the concepts of services, bundles and frameworks really make<br> sense and they are NOT well implemented on the MAC. =A0The time is<br> perfect for a third FLOSS desktop, KDE has gone off on the Windows<br> tangent and is gaining many new users but it is loseing power-users in<br> droves, Gnome is Gnome and will always be Gnome, you either love it or<br> hate it, I hate it. =A0Verticle menus and a verticle dock courtesy of<br> Windowmaker make more sense now than ever before considering the<br> almost universal move to wide-screen monitors. =A0I am not a purist, I<br> am not saying we should be locked to the OpenStep API of 15 years ago,<br> there has been a lot of progress in the computer world, wifi,<br> bluetooth, ACPI, none of tose things were around back then. =A0I like<br> the square-gray look but recognize that others do not so making things<br> skinnable makes sense, just allow me to keep the look I like.<br> <br> Saying that GNUstep is nothing but a development environment is a bit<br> of a cop-out, like taking 15 years of development. hundreds of<br> thousands of hours of work and equating it to Visual-Basic. =A0It is<br> like saying, that you build hammers that can only be used to build<br> more hammers, never any houses.<br> <br> Please don't think that I don't appreciate the efforts of the<br> base/back/gui developers, without them nothing works.<br> <br> Over the last couple weeks reading the mailing lists including<br> archives I have gotten the impression that most GNUstep developers<br> don't really use GNUstep, they don't use Project Center for<br> development, they don't use GNUMail, they do use Gorm which explains<br= > its comparative advanced state but of course Gorm is not needed for<br> base/back/make development.<br> <br> Users need applications, applications require application developers,<br> application developers need a stable API, 15 years is a long time.<br> <br> -j<br> <br> On 2010-02-14 22:34:15 +0100 Fred Kiefer <<a href=3D"mailto:fredkiefer@g= mx.de">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> > Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But being a<br> > developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-(<br> > Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep from SVN?<= br> > (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS then<br> > this<br> > was a very old version of GNUstep)<br> ><br> > And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch system for<b= r> > GNUstep that didn't make it upstream?<br> ><br> > Fred<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 4<br> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:03:34 +0100<br> From: "J. Jordan" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m">[email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: State of the 'Step<br> To: Dirk Olmes <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dirk@xanthippe= .ping.de</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, <a hr= ef=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Message-ID: <88b0191cc22592118cd8c79825e089e3@DV3-2150us><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3D"fl= owed"<br> <br> Dirk,<br> <br> I did not find any real bugs in Zipper, the one issue I had was that<br> when you attempt to decompress a tarball with multiple files Zipper<br> expects you to give it a filename instead of just pointing at the<br> directory to put the files in. =A0I discovered through trial and error<br> that if I put an asterisk in for the filename then the OK button will<br> become enabled. =A0Could probably have fixed that issue myself if Zipper<br= > had a Gorm editable GUI.<br> <br> Zipper works well and is important enough to me that I installed<br> Renaissance just so I can use it.<br> <br> -j<br> <br> On 2010-02-15 14:34:29 +0100 Dirk Olmes <<a href=3D"mailto:dirk@xanthipp= e.ping.de">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> <br> >> Zipper, wish it did not depend on Renissance, put an * in for the<= br> >> filename to gunzip to a directory.<br> ><br> > Would you care to elaborate? While chances are low that I'll get r= id<br> > of<br> > the dependency on Renaissance, I'd like to hear about any bugs in<= br> > Zipper.<br> ><br> > -dirk<br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 5<br> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:09:55 +0100<br> From: Thomas Wawra <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">twawra@goog= lemail.com</a>><br> Subject: Problem : openapp: command not found<br> To: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Message-ID:<br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<<a href=3D"mailto:a0115b5b1002160209h2b5e16acl36720cb47= [email protected]">[email protected]= mail.com</a>><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br> <br> Hi,<br> <br> I tried to run an app with the command: openapp in windowmaker on a freebsd= <br> 8.0 machine.<br> <br> Then : openapp: command not found appeared.<br> <br> <br> Does anyone knows how to solve the problem?<br> <br> <br> Thx<br> Thomas<br> -------------- next part --------------<br> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br> URL: <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/pipermail/apps-gnustep/attachments/201= 00216/70de0dfe/attachment.html" target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/pipe= rmail/apps-gnustep/attachments/20100216/70de0dfe/attachment.html</a><br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 6<br> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:29:27 +0100<br> From: "J. Jordan" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m">[email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: State of the 'Step<br> To: Gregory Casamento <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">greg.= [email protected]</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>, Fred = Kiefer <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>,<= br> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">discuss-gnustep@= gnu.org</a>, "Ronald C.F. Antony" <<a href=3D"mailto:rcfa@cubi= culum.com">[email protected]</a>><br> Message-ID: <6d666f4b82ca23fdba12c57fa1ba7152@DV3-2150us><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3D"fl= owed"<br> <br> Gregory, Ronald, et al,<br> <br> The Debian folks actually do a pretty good job of maintaining an<br> easily installed workable group of GNUstep applications. =A0I don't use= <br> them because I want to modify some of the apps with my own icons and<br> adjust the UI using Gorm, also want to be able to install updated apps<br> easily. =A0Debian changes the installation path so mixing and matching<br> is a hassle.<br> <br> I think it would be great if we could come up with a system to<br> identify applications that are known to build and run on a certain<br> base/back/gui. =A0Perhaps it could be tied to the version of Startup so<br> that a few weeks before a new version of Startup is released it goes<br> into to feature lock giving Application developers a chance to certify<br> their apps against that version of Startup. =A0Perhaps a numbering<br> scheme like "GWorkspace-0.8.7-cert-0.22.0.tgz" could indicate tha= t<br> this is the 0.8.7 version of GWorkspace and THIS tarball has been<br> demonstrated to compile and run on the default installation of<br> Startup-0.22.0. =A0It would of course be best if more than one person<br> tests the app. =A0Then Etoile, Debian, BSD, etc. could use those<br> versions as a starting point to mod for their distributions, of course<br> passing any bugs and patches upstream. =A0Maybe GAP could host the<br> certified version of the applications if they were willing.<br> <br> -j<br> <br> <br> <br> On 2010-02-15 22:26:33 +0100 Gregory Casamento<br> <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a= >> wrote:<br> <br> > Ronald,<br> ><br> > You're preaching to the choir here on this one. =A0Any ideas how t= o make<br> > that happen? =A0 I would love to get up to date packages everywhere.<b= r> ><br> > Thanks, GC<br> ><br> > On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 3:39 AM, Ronald C.F. Antony<br> > <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>><b= r> > wrote:<br> >> Even more to the point: unless there are simple GnuStep<br> >> meta-packages for<br> >> the major BSD and Linux distributions that are reasonable<br> >> "click-install-run" easy, most of the effort going into = GNUStep is<br> >> wasted,<br> >> because except for a few nostalgic exNeXT users and a few<br> >> developers,<br> >> nobody is going to use it.<br> >> I didn't have time to play with GNUStep for ages, but I keep<b= r> >> following the<br> >> development from a distance, but think about it for a moment: if K= DE<br> >> or<br> >> something like it would require that level of involvement just to<= br> >> get<br> >> going, do you think it would have the sort of adoption it has now?= <br> >><br> >> Ronald<br> >><br> >> On 14 Feb 2010, at 16:34, Fred Kiefer wrote:<br> >><br> >>> Great to hear how much GNUstep software you are using. But bei= ng a<br> >>> developer I am most interested in what didn't work :-(<br> >>> Why did you have to abandon your attempt to compile GNUstep fr= om<br> >>> SVN?<br> >>> (We switched over from CVS years ago, if you really tried CVS = then<br> >>> this<br> >>> was a very old version of GNUstep)<br> >>><br> >>> And are there any interesting patches on the debian patch syst= em for<br> >>> GNUstep that didn't make it upstream?<br> >><br> >><br> >><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Discuss-gnustep mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= </a><br> >> <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep" = target=3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss-gnustep</a>= <br> >><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> Message: 7<br> Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 11:36:39 +0100<br> From: "J. Jordan" <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]= m">[email protected]</a>><br> Subject: Re: Problem : openapp: command not found<br> To: Thomas Wawra <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">twawra@google= mail.com</a>><br> Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> Message-ID: <451e59d06d3e12b9015f8fa4cf595ce7@DV3-2150us><br> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"; format=3D"fl= owed"<br> <br> You probably do not need to use the openapp command. =A0I am not a BSD<br> user but on Linux you can use the name of the application (they have<br> been installing symlinks for a while). =A0to run GWorkspace just type<br> GWorkspace, capitalization is important and many GNUstep apps use<br> CamelCase. =A0You may also try "open GWorkspace" and if all else = fails<br> go inside the directory GWorkspace.app and use ./GWorkspace or<br> whatever the executable is.<br> <br> -j<br> <br> <br> On 2010-02-16 11:09:55 +0100 Thomas Wawra <<a href=3D"mailto:twawra@goog= lemail.com">[email protected]</a>><br> wrote:<br> <br> > Hi,<br> ><br> > I tried to run an app with the command: openapp in windowmaker on a<br= > > freebsd<br> > 8.0 machine.<br> ><br> > Then : openapp: command not found appeared.<br> ><br> ><br> > Does anyone knows how to solve the problem?<br> ><br> ><br> > Thx<br> > Thomas<br> > _______________________________________________<br> > apps-gnustep mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep" target= =3D"_blank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep</a><br> ><br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> ------------------------------<br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> apps-gnustep mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <a href=3D"http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep" target=3D"_b= lank">http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep</a><br> <br> <br> End of apps-gnustep Digest, Vol 47, Issue 3<br> *******************************************<br> </blockquote></div><br> --0016e6d7ef38f3a316047fb8c9cc-- --===============0942590616== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ apps-gnustep mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-gnustep --===============0942590616==--