Re: Wishlist of apps to port?

Ethan C <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lib.gnustep.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
This certainly seems like quite the interesting project! However, one 
thing I am concerned about is that this does not really show GNUstep's 
ability to port modern software, and it also is probably not a use case 
that is not already covered by MuseScore (which is the predominant 
open-source music notation software and is very actively maintained).

On 9/23/25 03:49, Paul Seelig wrote:
> On 9/23/25 02:50, Ethan C wrote:
>> I've always thought that it would be good to try to port macOS 
>> applications to GNUstep, for a few reasons:
>>
>>   * It shows that GNUstep is complete enough to port real applications
>>   * It helps show us in which areas we are weak or strong at
>>   * It could potentially get us new users, especially for users who
>>     are migrating from macOS to GNU/Linux or who use multiple
>>     operating systems regularly
>>
>> The current wishlist on the wiki does not really have many good ideas 
>> for existing applications to port, so I looked for some high-quality 
>> Objective-C + AppKit applications that might be interesting (see the 
>> wishlist below). I'd like to hear your thoughts.
>>
> In fact, there are quite a few very interesting projects but which are 
> rarely mentioned anywhere and thus languish unnecessarily.
>
> There also is a short list at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGNUstep 
> which includes the following music notation software rooted in 
> NeXTSTEP and later OPENSTEP:
>
> Calliope Music Notation Editor
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20020207022333/http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk:80/~wfc/calliope.html
> https://web.archive.org/web/20011214163302/http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk:80/~wfc/calliope-further.html
> https://ftp.nice.ch/pub/next/audio/editor/_Calliope.3981.README.html
>
>    Originally developed on NeXSTEP, it appears to since have been 
> ported to OPENSTEP 4.2, with further work begun to make it compile on 
> MacOS X and also create a GNUstep version:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/projects/calliopemusic/
> https://sourceforge.net/p/calliopemusic/news/
>
>     Work appears to have stalled in 2009 and the code base was 
> copied/migrated to github:
>
> https://github.com/leighsmith/calliopemusic
> https://github.com/leighsmith/MusicKit
>
> For people still running NeXTSTEP (works great in the previous 
> emulator http://previous.nextcommunity.net/), Calliope can be easily 
> installed, but ultimately requires a commercial music font named 
> Sonata which is not freely available anywhere. So there is also an 
> urgent need to create a free music notation font, either from existing 
> variants (Lilypond, MusicTeX, ?) or from scratch. See 
> https://sourceforge.net/p/calliopemusic/mailman/message/642669/ for 
> details.
>
> This certainly is a very difficult endeavour to undertake, but it 
> could have the potential of becoming the first killer app GNUstep is 
> still sorely missing.
>
> Current project maintainer Leigh Smith has been added in stealth mode 
> via BCC in case he might be interested to weigh in somehow.
>
> Regards,
> Paul Seelig
>
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