Re: discussion: GNUstep developer tools as AppImage?
[email protected] Tue, 26 May 2026 17:11:28 +0100
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--Apple-Mail=_91566411-2D8E-442A-8FAB-3C7480194C1C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 HI all, I used some time today to prototype this in GNUstep make, and = successfully built a portable image of EasyDiff: https://github.com/gnustep/tools-make/pull/70 I think lots of caveats (documented in the PR description), but it = basically works. It would be nice to have CI that builds non-flattened = AppImages that work on multiple architectures, for example. Best wishes, Graham. > On 25 May 2026, at 12:37, [email protected] via = Discussion list for the GNUstep programming environment = <[email protected]> wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 >> Am 25.05.2026 um 10:41 schrieb Riccardo Mottola = <[email protected]>: >>=20 >> Hi, >>=20 >> [email protected] via Discussion list for the = GNUstep programming environment wrote: >>> I think, GNUstep needs lower hurdles for entering our ecosystem and = so I had the thought =E2=80=9EWhat if we distribute the GNUstep dev = tools as AppImage?=E2=80=9C, e.g. bundling everything needed (basic = GNUstep installation; compiler, linker, make; Gorm.app and = ProjectCenter.app; some example code) into an AppImage like PikoPixel = did, so that our App can be run everywhere AppImages are supported. >>>=20 >>> What do you think about the idea, would it help our cause? >>>=20 >>> What would be the prerequisites for such an attempt? >>>=20 >>> How much work would it be? >>>=20 >>=20 >> I don't know about AppImages but GNUstep supports packing everything = into a single directory containing Application, frameworks, themes, = preferences into a single folder. >>=20 >> It is useful to ship a single application with its environment, I use = it with success on windows and have scripts for that. Very convenient. >> Theoretically it can also contain more than one app. >>=20 >> It is instead not very smart having several directories for each app, = since that way you have multiple runtime installations and running them = in concurrency may cause issues (beyond space waste). I don't know how = AppImages would handle this. >=20 > I mentioned AppImages because those are a recognized way to distribute = apps f=C3=BCr Linux (and BSD? I don=E2=80=99t know). Yeah, they somewhat = reinvented the wheel after OpenSteps app bundle, but they still seem to = be the way commonly used. Please correct me if I am wrong.=20 >=20 > Despite all this I am off course open to other but similar easy ways = to distribute (binary) apps to users. >=20 >>=20 >> -R >=20 > kind regards, >=20 > Lars --Apple-Mail=_91566411-2D8E-442A-8FAB-3C7480194C1C Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html aria-label=3D"message body"><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" = content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body = style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; = line-break: after-white-space;">HI all,<div><br></div><div>I used some = time today to prototype this in GNUstep make, and successfully built a = portable image of EasyDiff:</div><div><br></div><div><a = href=3D"https://github.com/gnustep/tools-make/pull/70">https://github.com/= gnustep/tools-make/pull/70</a></div><div><br></div><div>I think lots of = caveats (documented in the PR description), but it basically works. It = would be nice to have CI that builds non-flattened AppImages that work = on multiple architectures, for example.</div><div><br></div><div>Best = wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Graham.<br = id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote = type=3D"cite"><div>On 25 May 2026, at 12:37, = [email protected] via Discussion list for the GNUstep = programming environment <[email protected]> wrote:</div><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset=3D"UTF-8"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Hi,</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, = 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: = solid;"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: = none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;">Am = 25.05.2026 um 10:41 schrieb Riccardo Mottola = <[email protected]>:<br><br>Hi,<br><br>lars.sonchocky-helld= [email protected] via Discussion list for the GNUstep programming = environment wrote:<br><blockquote type=3D"cite">I think, GNUstep needs = lower hurdles for entering our ecosystem and so I had the thought = =E2=80=9EWhat if we distribute the GNUstep dev tools as AppImage?=E2=80=9C= , e.g. bundling everything needed (basic GNUstep installation; compiler, = linker, make; Gorm.app and ProjectCenter.app; some example code) into an = AppImage like PikoPixel did, so that our App can be run everywhere = AppImages are supported.<br><br>What do you think about the idea, would = it help our cause?<br><br>What would be the prerequisites for such an = attempt?<br><br>How much work would it be?<br><br></blockquote><br>I = don't know about AppImages but GNUstep supports packing everything into = a single directory containing Application, frameworks, themes, = preferences into a single folder.<br><br>It is useful to ship a single = application with its environment, I use it with success on windows and = have scripts for that. Very convenient.<br>Theoretically it can also = contain more than one app.<br><br>It is instead not very smart having = several directories for each app, since that way you have multiple = runtime installations and running them in concurrency may cause issues = (beyond space waste). I don't know how AppImages would handle = this.<br></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">I mentioned AppImages because those are a = recognized way to distribute apps f=C3=BCr Linux (and BSD? I don=E2=80=99t= know). Yeah, they somewhat reinvented the wheel after OpenSteps app = bundle, but they still seem to be the way commonly used. Please correct = me if I am wrong.<span = class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">Despite all this I am off course open to = other but similar easy ways to distribute (binary) apps to = users.</span><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: = Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: = normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; = text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: = normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; = text-decoration-line: none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; = text-decoration-style: solid;"><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: = solid;"><blockquote type=3D"cite" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: = none; text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: = solid;"><br>-R<br></blockquote><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; = display: inline !important;">kind regards,</span><br style=3D"caret-color:= rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: = normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><br = style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; = letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"><span = class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: 2; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; = white-space: pre; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration-line: none; = text-decoration-thickness: auto; text-decoration-style: solid;"> = </span><span style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; = font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; = font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; = word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: = none; float: none; display: inline = !important;">Lars</span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>= --Apple-Mail=_91566411-2D8E-442A-8FAB-3C7480194C1C--