Re: [HELP] Strange sort order. Why?

Yes, if you make a tailoring that establishes a-accent as a primary difference 
from a. There are languages where this is the case (Croatian/Serbian(Latin), 
Slovak etc.). But for English, accented a is just an a with an accent.

so your tailoring might look something like:
&a < á

Hope this helps.

Regards,
v.

Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:
> On 2/21/05 11:29 PM, "Vladimir Weinstein" <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Vladimir,
> 
> Then I ask in other way. Can I get THIS ORDER using ICU ?
> 
>         Sadler  Saunder  Sánchez            (1)
> 
> I need this order, because I use this sorted list for range search.
> I need find all strings that START WITH 'Sa'.
> 
> Having order 
> 
>         Sadler Sánchez Saunder              (2)
> 
> I get incorrect results. Because I find left point of range "Sadler"
> Then I find right point of range "Saunder"...
> And into result I get all 3 words including "Sánchez"
> 
> But users say: 
>     Hey, I have choose SECONDARY option.
>     I do not want to see accents in the result!
> 
> So how to get order (1) ?
> 
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>this is expected order. The difference between a and accented a is by default
>>a secondary difference - meaning it is examined only if the strings are
>>equivalent on the primary level.  Since there is a primary difference between
>>'u' and 'n' it takes precedence and thus establishes the sort order.
>>
>>Hope this helps.
>>
>>Regards,
>>v.
>>
>>Ruslan Zasukhin wrote:
>>
>>>Hi All,
>>>
>>>If to go on this online demo
>>>
>>>http://www-950.ibm.com/software/globalization/icu/demo/locales/en/?_=en_US&d
>>>_=en&x=col
>>>
>>>And use these 3 words
>>>
>>>    Sadler
>>>    Saunder
>>>    Sánchez
>>>
>>>The result of sorting will be
>>>
>>>    Sadler
>>>    Sánchez
>>>    Saunder
>>>
>>>This result of sorting we have for any set of parameters, btw!
>>>
>>>    user want to use in fact SECONDARY(=1) value as collation strength.
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------
>>>QUESTION IS:
>>>
>>>    it looks to me (and to our customers) that this is WRONG order.
>>>    for example Excel and any other soft we have try show order
>>>
>>>    Sadler
>>>    Saunder
>>>    Sánchez
>>>    
>>>
>>>Why ICU produce this wrong order ????
>>>
>>>Or where we do mistake ?
>>>
>>>
> 
> 

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Vladimir Weinstein, IBM GCoC-Unicode/ICU  San Jose, CA [email protected]