Re: Optimize Notification processing

Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> Mon, 19 May 2025 20:01:48 -0700 (PDT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.lib.scintilla.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Yeah... My bad. I was confused by the fact that SCN_UPDATEUI does not 
update the .Position value.  But of course, I don't need it in the 
notification function itself. I call  SCI_GETCURRENTPOS(), etc. in  
EditorContentChanged.

Thanks Mitchell.

Jean

Le lundi 19 mai 2025 à 17 h 49 min 01 s UTC-4, Mitchell a écrit :

> Hi,
>
> > On May 19, 2025, at 5:38 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > Yes, EditorContentChanged already contains these commands ( 
> SCI_GETCURRENTPOS, etc). At this time, it runs every 0.5 sec with timer. 
> What I'm looking for, if possible, is to trigger EditorContentChanged with 
> Scintilla notifications instead of a timer.
>
> Well, whenever you move the caret position or make a selection, Scintilla 
> will send SCN_UPDATEUI. Your handler’s first if branch should be hit, and 
> then call `EditorContentChanged`. Is that not what happens? Maybe I’m not 
> understanding something.
>
> Cheers,
> Mitchell
>
> > 
> > Jean
> > 
> > 
> > Le lundi 19 mai 2025 à 17 h 28 min 58 s UTC-4, Mitchell a écrit :
> > Hi, 
> > 
> > > On May 19, 2025, at 5:19 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> wrote: 
> > > 
> > > > I think you would have an `} else if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED 
> && obj.Ch == 10) {` block. 
> > > 
> > > Yes that's what I needed to do. Everything works as desired now! Thank 
> you Mitchell. 
> > > 
> > > My code now looks like: 
> > > 
> > > if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_UPDATEUI 
> > > and (obj.Updated & (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0)) 
> > > { 
> > > Diag(A_ThisFunc, aaScnCodes[obj.SCNCode] . " obj.Updated", 
> obj.Updated) 
> > > Gosub, EditorContentChanged 
> > > } 
> > > else if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED && obj.Ch == 10) 
> > > { 
> > > Diag(A_ThisFunc, aaScnCodes[obj.SCNCode] . " obj.Ch", obj.Ch) 
> > > Gosub, ProcessAutoIndent 
> > > } 
> > > 
> > > As a last improvement, I would like to receive notifications when the 
> caret position or selection change (to update the app's status bar with 
> current line, column, etc.). Should I use SCN_MODIFIED and change the mask 
> accordingly? 
> > 
> > No, SCN_UPDATEUI lets you know one or both happened. Presumably your 
> `EditorContentChanged` will be sending Scintilla messages to get that 
> information. For example, SCI_GETCURRENTPOS and SCI_GETANCHOR will give you 
> the current selection (or the current position if they are the same; i.e. 
> no selection), SCI_LINEFROMPOSITION will give you the current line, 
> SCI_GETCOLUMN will give you the current column, etc. 
> > 
> > Cheers, 
> > Mitchell 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Jean 
> > > Le lundi 19 mai 2025 à 15 h 58 min 16 s UTC-4, Mitchell a écrit : 
> > > Hi, 
> > > 
> > > > On May 19, 2025, at 3:30 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > > > 
> > > > Hi Mitchell, 
> > > > 
> > > > Yes, the offsets were wrong. I got them fixed (thanks to AHK users 
> in this thread). 
> > > > 
> > > > With this in the Scintilla creation: 
> > > > 
> > > > o_Sci.SETMODEVENTMASK(0) 
> > > > o_Sci.NOTIFY := "SciOnNotify" 
> > > > 
> > > > And this in SciOnNotify(): 
> > > > 
> > > > if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_UPDATEUI 
> > > > and (obj.Updated & (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0)) 
> > > > { 
> > > > Diag(A_ThisFunc, aaScnCodes[obj.SCNCode] . " obj.Updated / obj.Ch", 
> obj.Updated . " / " . obj.Ch) 
> > > > Gosub, EditorContentChanged 
> > > > } 
> > > > 
> > > > What I get in the log file is now correct for the .Updated values. 
> But I .Ch is always empty even when .Updated contains 1 
> (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT): 
> > > > 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:24.889 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 9 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:25.727 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 1 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:27.338 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 2 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:29.731 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 1 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:30.048 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 1 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:30.388 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 1 / 0 
> > > > 20250519@15:19:31.298 SciOnNotify SCN_UPDATEUI obj.Updated / obj.Ch 
> 3 / 0 
> > > > 
> > > > From what I read in the Scintilla doc, the .Ch value is only 
> returned for these SCNCode values: 
> > > > 
> > > > int ch; 
> > > > /* SCN_CHARADDED, SCN_KEY, SCN_AUTOCCOMPLETED, SCN_AUTOCSELECTION, 
> */ 
> > > > /* SCN_USERLISTSELECTION */ 
> > > > 
> > > > What should I change in the mask or if to get the .Ch info (neeeded 
> to handle auto-indentation)? 
> > > 
> > > I think you would have an `} else if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED && 
> obj.Ch == 10) {` block. 
> > > 
> > > The mask only applies to `SCN_MODIFIED` notifications, which any no 
> other notification is. 
> > > 
> > > Cheers, 
> > > Mitchell 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks again for your support. 
> > > > 
> > > > Le dimanche 18 mai 2025 à 22 h 34 min 33 s UTC-4, Mitchell a écrit : 
> > > > Hi, 
> > > > 
> > > > > On May 18, 2025, at 10:27 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks for the clarification. There is progress. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > My code is now: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > o_Sci.SETMODEVENTMASK(0) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_UPDATEUI 
> > > > > and (obj.Updated & (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0)) 
> > > > > Gosub, EditorContentChanged 
> > > > > 
> > > > > if (o_Settings.EditorWindow.blnAutoIndent.IniValue 
> > > > > and obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED and obj.Modifier = 10) 
> > > > > ; Auto-Indent 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Event triggered are (from my log): 
> > > > > 
> > > > > SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2000 SCN_STYLENEEDED 
> > > > > SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2001 SCN_CHARADDED 
> > > > > SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2007 SCN_UPDATEUI 
> > > > > SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2013 SCN_PAINTED 
> > > > > SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2028 UNKNOWN_2028 
> > > > > 
> > > > > But the issue is that the obj.Updated value is always false (even 
> if I select or insert text). Maybe there is something to look at in the 
> wrapper? Here is an abstracts from the code setting the .Updated value 
> (full code here): 
> > > > > 
> > > > > __SciNotify(wParam, lParam, msg, hWnd) { 
> > > > > ... 
> > > > > Static OffUpdated := x64 ? 116 : 88 
> > > > > 
> > > > > __SciObj := __SCI(NumGet(lParam + 0, 0, "UPtr")) ; Returns 
> original object ; JL: UPtr changed 2025-05-18 see 
> https://www.autohotkey.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=137269 
> > > > > ... 
> > > > > __SciObj.Updated := NumGet(lParam + OffUpdated) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ; Call user defined Notify function and passes object to it as 
> last parameter 
> > > > > __SciObj.Notify(wParam, lParam, msg, hWnd, __SciObj) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On the other hand: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > obj.Ch is updated with very large values (looking like mod type?) 
> > > > > obj.modifiers is updated with ASCII code of characters I typed. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Could it be that the offset values when processing lParam are 
> incorrect? 
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, those offsets are probably not right. I don’t know what they 
> should be (since I work with the C/C++ struct directly), but `code` being a 
> large number does not make sense, so its offset is probably wrong. 
> `updated` should never be zero either. 
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers, 
> > > > Mitchell 
> > > > 
> > > > > Le dimanche 18 mai 2025 à 18 h 28 min 31 s UTC-4, Mitchell a écrit 
> : 
> > > > > Hi, 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On May 18, 2025, at 5:40 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks for the help Mitchell. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sorry but I'm (easily) confused. And I'm not very familiar with 
> events and masks... 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> I could be wrong, but you may be able to get away with just 
> listening for `SCN_UPDATEUI` and `SCN_CHARADDED` and setting the mod mask 
> to 0 to ignore them all: 
> > > > > >> - For `SCN_UPDATEUI`, `updated & (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | 
> SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0` can be used for detecting position, content and 
> selection changes. 
> > > > > >> - For `SCN_CHARADDED`, if `ch` is 10, the user pressed enter 
> and you can perform auto-indent. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > How would you translate this into pseudo code? What does mean " 
> setting the mod mask to 0 to ignore them all"? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yes, this can all be tricky to understand and get right. I’ve been 
> there, and I could still be wrong :) 
> > > > > 
> > > > > `os_Sci.SETMODEVENTMASK(0)` turns off all `SCN_MODIFIED` events. 
> Those are the insert text, delete text, etc. It can be very noisy, which is 
> why Scintilla provides this message for you to pick and choose the 
> modifications you care about. If you don’t care about any of them, you can 
> use set to 0 as an optimization. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > You don’t use `SETMODEVENTMASK` with `SCN_UPDATEUI` or 
> `SCN_CHARADDED`. Your `SciOnNotify` handler will always receive them (e.g. 
> code 2007 for SCN_UPDATEUI, 2001 for SCN_CHARADDED), as you can see in your 
> log. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Using my suggestions, your SciOnNotify handler might look like 
> this: 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ``` 
> > > > > if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_UPDATEUI && (obj.updated & 
> (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0)) { 
> > > > > // Either the document’s content or selection changed. 
> > > > > // You can query its length, selection position, etc. to update 
> your status bar. 
> > > > > } else if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED && obj.char == 10) { 
> > > > > // The user pressed enter, so you can do auto-indent. 
> > > > > } 
> > > > > ``` 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I hope that helps. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Cheers, 
> > > > > Mitchell 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I tested the mask 
> o_Sci.SETMODEVENTMASK(SCN_UPDATEUI|SCN_CHARADDED) and logged the events. 
> I'm getting SCN_UPDATEUI and SCN_CHARADDED events but also other types as 
> shown by the following extracts (only one by type) from my log file: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:20.199 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2007 SCN_UPDATEUI 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:20.200 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:20.205 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:20.210 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.039 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2000 
> SCN_STYLENEEDED 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.039 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.045 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.050 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.204 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2028 UNKNOWN_2028 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.204 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.211 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.217 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.279 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2013 SCN_PAINTED 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.284 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.290 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:21.297 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.662 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2008 SCN_MODIFIED 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.662 SciOnNotify obj.modType 4466765987840 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.669 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.675 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > When adding a new line: 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.740 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2001 SCN_CHARADDED 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.744 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.750 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 55834574848 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.756 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 13 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.763 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2001 SCN_CHARADDED 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.768 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.773 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 42949672960 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:23.779 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 10 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:26.345 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2029 UNKNOWN_2029 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:26.345 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:26.352 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:26.358 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:27.710 SciOnNotify obj.SCNCode 2028 UNKNOWN_2028 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:27.710 SciOnNotify obj.modType 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:27.717 SciOnNotify obj.Ch 0 
> > > > > > 20250518@17:17:27.723 SciOnNotify obj.modifiers 0 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > FYI, I'm using Scintilla.DLL v3.7.6 with a wrapper written in 
> AutoHotkey v1. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Le dimanche 18 mai 2025 à 15 h 57 min 04 s UTC-4, Mitchell a 
> écrit : 
> > > > > > Hi, 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> On May 18, 2025, at 3:40 PM, Jean Lalonde <[email protected]> 
> wrote: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Hi, 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I'd like to check with you if I have the optimal setting to 
> minimize the number of notifications but get all those I need to update the 
> status bar with the length of text in the editor, length of selected text, 
> position of the caret (line, column), etc. and to process line 
> auto-indentation (as explained in Scintilla Usage Notes). 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I'm setting this event mask: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> o_Sci.SETMODEVENTMASK(SCN_MODIFIED) ; eventMask can be 
> SCN_MODIFIED or SC_MOD_INSERTTEXT|SC_MOD_DELETETEXT 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I could be wrong, but you may be able to get away with just 
> listening for `SCN_UPDATEUI` and `SCN_CHARADDED` and setting the mod mask 
> to 0 to ignore them all: 
> > > > > > - For `SCN_UPDATEUI`, `updated & (SC_UPDATE_CONTENT | 
> SC_UPDATE_SELECTION) > 0` can be used for detecting position, content and 
> selection changes. 
> > > > > > - For `SCN_CHARADDED`, if `ch` is 10, the user pressed enter and 
> you can perform auto-indent. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers, 
> > > > > > Mitchell 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> I'm setting the notification handler with this: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> o_Sci.NOTIFY := "SciOnNotify" 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> And inside SciOnNotify(), I first update the status bar: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> if (obj.SCNCode == SCN_CHARADDED and obj.Modifiers = 10) ; 
> SCN_CHARADDED:=2001, 10 for LF 
> > > > > >> { 
> > > > > >> Gosub, AutoIndent 
> > > > > >> } 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> ... and update the status bar: 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> if (obj.SCNCode = SCN_MODIFIED) ; SCN_MODIFIED:=2008 
> > > > > >> and (obj.ModType != 20) ; SC_MOD_CHANGESTYLE := 0x4 | 
> SC_PERFORMED_USER := 0x10 = 0x14 = 20 
> > > > > >> { 
> > > > > >> Gosub, UpdateStatusbar 
> > > > > >> } 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> This works for what I need. But can it be optimized? 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Thanks you for your input. 
> > > > > >> 
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