Re: IMPORTANT: Migrating away from mailing list
Mason Wheeler <[email protected]> Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:19:52 +0000 (UTC)
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Go ahead, ask Jeff what happened with The Daily WTF forums on Discourse.=C2=
=A0 Just be aware that whatever answer you get is likely to be heavily slan=
ted.=C2=A0 Then tell us what he said, and I'll show you the archives.
Mason
From: Ryan C. Gordon <[email protected]>
To: SDL Development List <[email protected]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: [SDL] IMPORTANT: Migrating away from mailing list
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> When this came up a while ago, I mentioned that I had previous
> experience with Discourse and it was a huge mess, and it sure looked
> like you and Sam acknowledged it and said thanks for the warning.
I tried to find a better alternative and couldn't. I'm not sure that the=20
technical issues you mentioned are still a problem, as development=20
continued on, fwiw, but this quote here:
> Speaking of Jeff Atwood, even though he was not a member of our
> community, he took it upon himself to use a developer's backdoor to set
> up a special administrator account on our community and go through
> policing things, arbitrarily moving posts from one category to another
> because he felt it fit better there, to the point where "Jeffing" became
> a verb among us meaning "moderator action to move a post to another
> thread/category".=C2=A0 I can't help but think this behavior would be
> completely unacceptable for the SDL forum.
Do you mind if I ask Jeff about this? That would be a pretty serious=20
breach of trust, and I'd like to understand the details.
> I cannot emphasize this strongly enough: if you switch over to
> Discourse, we will all end up regretting it.=C2=A0 I agree that we need a
> better forum software, but please, /please,/ find something less toxic!
The bulk of the hard work was cleaning up the archives outside of=20
Discourse; those are all sitting here as mbox files that can probably be=20
moved anywhere. If you have a better solution, please suggest it, but we=20
have to move quickly in whatever direction we go.
--ryan.
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<html><head></head><body><div style=3D"color:#000; background-color:#fff; f=
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-size:13px">Go ahead, ask Jeff what happened with The Daily WTF forums on D=
iscourse. Just be aware that whatever answer you get is likely to be =
heavily slanted. Then tell us what he said, and I'll show you the arc=
hives.<br><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1490714072345_10929"><span></span></div><=
div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1490714072345_10928">Mason<b=
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>From:</span></b> Ryan C. Gordon <[email protected]><br> <b><span s=
tyle=3D"font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> SDL Development List <sdl@lis=
ts.libsdl.org> <br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></=
b> Tuesday, March 28, 2017 11:00 AM<br> <b><span style=3D"font-weight: bold=
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t<br> </font> </div> <div class=3D"y_msg_container" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1490=
714072345_10831"><br><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_1_1490714072345_1083=
0"><br clear=3D"none">> When this came up a while ago, I mentioned that =
I had previous<br clear=3D"none">> experience with Discourse and it was =
a huge mess, and it sure looked<br clear=3D"none">> like you and Sam ack=
nowledged it and said thanks for the warning.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">I tried to find a better alternative and couldn't. I'm not sure t=
hat the <br clear=3D"none">technical issues you mentioned are still a probl=
em, as development <br clear=3D"none">continued on, fwiw, but this quote he=
re:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">> Speaking of Jeff Atwood, even=
though he was not a member of our<br clear=3D"none">> community, he too=
k it upon himself to use a developer's backdoor to set<br clear=3D"none">&g=
t; up a special administrator account on our community and go through<br cl=
ear=3D"none">> policing things, arbitrarily moving posts from one catego=
ry to another<br clear=3D"none">> because he felt it fit better there, t=
o the point where "Jeffing" became<br clear=3D"none">> a verb among us m=
eaning "moderator action to move a post to another<br clear=3D"none">> t=
hread/category". I can't help but think this behavior would be<br cle=
ar=3D"none">> completely unacceptable for the SDL forum.<br clear=3D"non=
e"><br clear=3D"none">Do you mind if I ask Jeff about this? That would be a=
pretty serious <br clear=3D"none">breach of trust, and I'd like to underst=
and the details.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">> I cannot emphasi=
ze this strongly enough: if you switch over to<br clear=3D"none">> Disco=
urse, we will all end up regretting it. I agree that we need a<br cle=
ar=3D"none">> better forum software, but please, /please,/ find somethin=
g less toxic!<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">The bulk of the hard wor=
k was cleaning up the archives outside of <br clear=3D"none">Discourse; tho=
se are all sitting here as mbox files that can probably be <br clear=3D"non=
e">moved anywhere. If you have a better solution, please suggest it, but we=
<br clear=3D"none">have to move quickly in whatever direction we go.<div c=
lass=3D"yqt1656474980" id=3D"yqtfd81273"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"no=
ne">--ryan.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">_______=
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