Re: [DISCUSS] PUWL v1.0 – P-EADCA Universal Waiver License
Pamela Chestek <[email protected]> Mon, 6 Oct 2025 14:09:35 -0700
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I was distinguishing what a third party can do and what the author themselves can do. The license says "In jurisdictions where attribution or other moral rights cannot be fully waived, the author does not require their name to be displayed beyond the minimal extent required by applicable law." The question is what jurisdictions don't even allow the author to waive it, which is different from a legal obligation on the part of third parties to provide it. And this is inconsistent: "In jurisdictions where attribution or other moral rights cannot be fully waived, the author ... consents to any use of all original material in this work without personal attribution wherever legally permitted ..." So where attribution cannot be waived, the author is nevertheless waiving it? I was really just after some simplification of the moral rights paragraph - why not just say that the author waives all claims and leave it at that? The phrase "to the fullest extent permitted by applicable law" is surplusage too; it goes without saying that's the extent to which it can be enforced. Pam Pamela S. Chestek Chestek Legal 4641 Post St. Unit 4316 El Dorado Hills, CA 95762 +1 919-800-8033 [email protected] www.chesteklegal.com On 10/6/2025 11:53 AM, Johnny A. Solbu wrote: > On Monday 06 October 2025 20:45, Pamela Chestek wrote: >> On 10/4/2025 2:59 PM, Balázs Hámorszky wrote: >>> In jurisdictions where attribution or other moral rights cannot be >>> fully waived, the author does not require their name to be displayed >>> beyond the minimal extent required by law, >> Are there jurisdictions that do not allow you to waive attribution? > Yes, most of the countries in Europe do not allow you to sign away your right to be listed as the author. > Any contract saying that you do this are null and void on this point. > > To use the CC licenses as the example, the «CC-by» is mandatory. > > > _______________________________________________ > The opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender and not necessarily those of the Open Source Initiative. Official statements by the Open Source Initiative will be sent from an opensource.org email address. > > License-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org _______________________________________________ The opinions expressed in this email are those of the sender and not necessarily those of the Open Source Initiative. Official statements by the Open Source Initiative will be sent from an opensource.org email address. License-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.opensource.org/mailman/listinfo/license-discuss_lists.opensource.org