Strong's numbers: Numbers or strings

Karl Kleinpaste <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.literature.sword.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
I have a Xiphos bug <https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/issues/1107> in 
which the facility to take a Strong's dict entry and search the Bible 
module for all its occurrences sometimes works and sometimes doesn't.

The mechanism is straightforward: Take the key from the dict pane, note 
whether this is Heb or Grk, construct e.g. lemma:Hxxxxx, stuff that into 
the sidebar search, and execute the search. No sweat.

The problem is with Heb refs. Because of the ancient habit that Heb 
Strong's refs are given a leading zero prefix (e.g. "07225") as a weak 
discriminant from Grk refs in the same number space, I actually handle 
this case explicitly. Strong's module keys are fixed, 5-digit strings, 
and the dict pane always shows this. When that key is taken to build the 
lemma search, I specifically include the last leading zero in the Heb case.

This works in KJV and ESV where we find "<w savlm="strong:H07225">In the 
beginning</w>".
This fails in NASB and OSHB where we find "<w savlm="strong:H7225">In 
the beginning</w>".
Note H07225 vs H7225.

The question revolves around what a Strong's ref ontologically is. 
Seriously, what is it?
Is it a number, written naturally with minimal required digits, stored 
for convenience in a character string?
Or is it a specific and fixed string of characters?

In terms of module keys, it's a string of characters.
In terms of Bible markup, well... Opinion varies. As we see in this 
case, some Bibles encode as a natural number, occupying the normal 
(minimal) digits needed, but others take the fixed string approach so as 
to include a leading zero, but note that it's not a full, fixed, 5-digit 
string to match a dict key; it's just one leading zero, no matter how 
many natural digits follow. KJV encodes the 1st Heb ref as "01". Not "1" 
(natural number) and not "00001" (module key); just "01".

Result is that, by constructing zero-prefixed searches, such searches 
always fail in Bibles using natural/minimal digits because there's never 
a zero-prefixed match.

This is different from Grk refs, which are stored in dict modules the 
same as Heb dict keys -- fixed 5-digit -- but are always marked up as 
natural numbers using minimal digits.

As matters stand, I have no /a priori/ means by which to determine what 
to expect in a Bible's Heb Strong's markup. The dict pane's key from 
which to construct the search is fixed 5 digits. That is at first 
trimmed to natural, minimal digits...and then the trouble starts because 
I don't have anything like a module conf directive to tell me whether 
the module uses zero-prefixed Heb refs or not. I'm also not aware that 
we have any standard for such markup to which I can point to say, 
"NASB's markup is wrong because it lacks zero-prefixing on Heb refs."

Help.

_______________________________________________
sword-devel mailing list: [email protected]
http://crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel
Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.