Re: Fw: The Abbreviation key in Config files

Hi everyone,

My initial message in this thread was sent to sword-devel.
Other than Michael & Karl, did anyone else receive it?

Are any other SWORD/JSword front-end apps affected similarly?

i.e. Confused by the Abbreviation key clashing with another module Name.

Best regards,

David

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On Tuesday, February 18th, 2025 at 8:49 PM, Michael Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi David & Karl,
>
> I got this, but I'm in time triage mode, and this is not an issue that I can reasonably fix. Indeed, if anything, I should keep things as they are so that front end designers don't get the idea that version abbreviations are unique to just one module. Even being unique to a language is iffy if the module has different sources. I can't fix bad front end design.
>
> On 2/18/25 10:14, David Haslam wrote:
>
>> Hi Michael,
>>
>> Very strange!
>>
>> I sent this 3 days ago, and not had a response from anyone!!!
>>
>> It should've reached you twice (direct from the cc: plus via the mailing list), but did it?
>>
>> This time, I've cc: Karl, because I'd referred to Xiphos behaviour.
>> NB. When the displayed module does flip as described below, the module name in the selected tab is not changed.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> David
>>
>> Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>>
>> ------- Forwarded Message -------
>> From: David Haslam
>> [<[email protected]>](mailto:[email protected])
>> Date: On Saturday, February 15th, 2025 at 5:16 PM
>> Subject: The Abbreviation key in Config files
>> To: sword-devel mailing list
>> [<[email protected]>](mailto:[email protected])
>> CC: Kahunapule Michael Johnson
>> [<[email protected]>](mailto:[email protected])
>>
>>> Some modules in some repositories make use of the Abbreviation key.
>>>
>>> This key is documented in the devlopers' wiki:
>>> https://wiki.crosswire.org/DevTools:conf_Files
>>> Note 2 reads: "We advise against explicitly declaring a redundant Abbreviation identical to the ModName. Abbreviation values should try to be unique to avoid user confusion."
>>>
>>> It's not just users that are confused!
>>> Front-end apps can also be confused.
>>>
>>> e.g. In Xiphos, if I have both the CrossWire KJV module installed and either of these modules from eBible.org also installed:
>>> * engKJV2006eb - which has Abbreviation=KJV
>>> * engKJV1769eb - which has Abbreviation=KJVD
>>> After I do a search (while the KJV module is selected) and then click one of the search results, the module in the selected tab switches to one with the same Abbreviation.
>>>
>>> This ought not to be the case!
>>>
>>> I don't think this is a software bug in Xiphos, per se.
>>>
>>> I think that the software is simply confused by the use of an Abbreviation key that's identical to the Name of another installed module!
>>>
>>> We should already know that module names must be unique, even if they come from different repositories.
>>>
>>> We should also mandate that module abbreviations must not match that of any other module from any available repository!
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>
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