Re: Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

I think the best and correct way is to call this ‘display’ and encode the exact look you want to achieve via style sheet.

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From: sword-devel <[email protected]> on behalf of David Haslam <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2025 2:34 pm
To: Alan Bunning <[email protected]>
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Subject: Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format !

{{overline|ΘΥ}}

I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that!

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam <[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, Alan, for the explanation.

This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS abbr element for each instance. This would require that each type of nomina sacrum would then need to be retained as the abbreviation, and then expanded using the XML attribute, e.g.

<abbr expansion="Θεοῦ">ΘΥ</abbr>

Please refer to the OSIS User Manual section 13.2

NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display the expansions!

The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc: to sword-devel in this reply.

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning <[email protected]> wrote:

Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra.

Alan Bunning, D.Litt.

Executive Director

Center for New Testament Restoration

https://greekcntr.org

On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán
wrote:

Dear Alan,

I received the following emails. I haven't looked into them
very much, but maybe you want to join the conversation.

Blessings, Zoltan

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Feladó: David
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Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37

Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

To: pierre amadio <[email protected] >

Cc: Kovács Zoltán <[email protected] >,
<[email protected] >

Hi Pierre,

That's a very plausible explanation!

Here are the relevant lines from my word count.

Word Count

˚Θεέ 2

˚Θεοῦ 690

˚Θεόν 73

˚Θεός 68

˚Θεὸν 72

˚Θεὸς 239

˚Θεῷ 158

˚Κυρίου 231

˚Κυρίῳ 95

˚Κύριε 89

˚Κύριον 63

˚Κύριος 139

˚Κύριόν 1

˚Κύριός 10

˚Πνεύματι 59

˚Πνεύματος 79

˚Πνεύματός 5

˚Πνεῦμά 7

˚Πνεῦμα 99

˚Χριστέ 1

˚Χριστοῦ 252

˚Χριστόν 18

˚Χριστός 41

˚Χριστὸν 48

˚Χριστὸς 71

˚Χριστῷ 104

˚θεὸς 1

˚Ἰησοῦ 329

˚Ἰησοῦν 126

˚Ἰησοῦς 456

NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of nomina
sacra, then it ought to be described in the
conf file!

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio [email protected]
wrote:

Hi there.

As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a
circular mark

such as Ring Above (U+02DA).

Looking at the source text, they seem to always
appears next to words such as

https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt

˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,

˚Πνεύματος

˚Κυρίου

Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra
in manuscripts ?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra

On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán [email protected]
wrote:

Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to
you.

Best, Zoltan

David Haslam [email protected]
ezt írta (időpont: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 13:33):

Arising from the grapheme count, I have a further
technical query.

There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE.

I am wondering whether these would be better
being all replaced by U+030A COMBINING RING ABOVE,
and if so, whether the mark should follow the
Greek letter rather than precede it.

NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents rules
is fairly limited.

Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for
viewing a Greek NT text?

Might it be sensible to include such an element in
the .conf file?

Best regards,

David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM, David
Haslam [email protected]
wrote:

Hi Kovács,

Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a grapheme
count on the full Greek text with accents.

i.e. After first stripping out the references from
the diatheke output. See inside attached 7-Zip
file.

There are two left/right count mismatches that
ought to be looked at.

2018 ‘ 483

2019 ’ 484

201C “ 1,904

201D ” 1,907

cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK.

0028 ( 62

0029 ) 62

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David

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On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM, David
Haslam [email protected]
wrote:

This module has the wrong Versification.

It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply the
wrong choice!

Please fix this ASAP.

Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script that
led to this mistake!

Best regards,

David

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On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM, [email protected]
[email protected]
wrote:

This is to announce that we have just now
uploaded StatResGNT

in the CrossWire beta repository for testing
purposes.

If no raised concern nor a quality alert has been
sent on the list,

StatResGNT will be published in a week.

This is an update.

Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453)

Version=1.3

History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest release
(last database change: 2024-07-16)

TextSource= https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt

Versification=LXX

Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work.

yours

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