Re: Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT

This is how we record nomen sacrum in TEI and should transfer to OSIS 
just fine, e.g.,

https://ntvmr.uni-muenster.de/community/vmr/api/transcript/get/?docID=20001&indexContent=John.3.16&format=teiraw


On 3/13/25 4:28 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote:
> I think the best and correct way is to call this ‘display’ and encode 
> the exact look you want to achieve via style sheet.
>
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> David Haslam <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2025 2:34 pm
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> *Subject:* Re: [sword-devel] Fwd: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT
> It would also require that we devise a means to encode in the OSIS the 
> equivalent to what was used in the underlying Wiki format !
>
> {{overline|ΘΥ}}
>
> I doubt if the SWORD engine has a means to implement that!
>
> Best regards,
>
> David
>
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> On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 2:22 PM, David Haslam 
> <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]> wrote:
>
>     Thanks, Alan, for the explanation.
>
>     This then prompts a suggestion as to the potential use of the OSIS
>     *abbr* element for each instance. This would require that each
>     type of */nomina sacrum/* would then need to be retained as the
>     abbreviation, and then expanded using the XML attribute, e.g.
>
>     <abbr expansion="Θεοῦ">ΘΥ</abbr>
>
>     Please refer to the *OSIS User Manual* section 13.2
>
>     NB. I don't know whether the SWORD engine has any code to display
>     the expansions!
>     /The coders might enlighten us on this point. I have therefore cc:
>     to /*/sword-devel/*/ in this reply.
>     /
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     David
>
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>     On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:45 PM, Alan Bunning
>     <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>         Yes, that symbol is used to mark nomina sacra.
>
>         /Alan Bunning, D.Litt.
>         Executive Director
>         Center for New Testament Restoration
>         https://greekcntr.org/
>
>         On 3/13/2025 9:42 AM, Kovács Zoltán wrote:
>
>             Dear Alan,
>             I received the following emails. I haven't looked into
>             them very much, but maybe you want to join the conversation.
>             Blessings, Zoltan
>
>             ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>             Feladó: *David Haslam* <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]>
>             Date: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 14:37
>             Subject: Re: [modules] New Beta Module: StatResGNT
>             To: pierre amadio <[email protected]>
>             Cc: Kovács Zoltán <[email protected]>, <[email protected]>
>
>
>             Hi Pierre,
>
>             That's a very plausible explanation!
>
>             Here are the relevant lines from my *word count*.
>
>                 Word Count
>                 ˚Θεέ 2
>                 ˚Θεοῦ 690
>                 ˚Θεόν 73
>                 ˚Θεός 68
>                 ˚Θεὸν 72
>                 ˚Θεὸς 239
>                 ˚Θεῷ 158
>                 ˚Κυρίου 231
>                 ˚Κυρίῳ 95
>                 ˚Κύριε 89
>                 ˚Κύριον 63
>                 ˚Κύριος 139
>                 ˚Κύριόν 1
>                 ˚Κύριός 10
>                 ˚Πνεύματι 59
>                 ˚Πνεύματος 79
>                 ˚Πνεύματός 5
>                 ˚Πνεῦμά 7
>                 ˚Πνεῦμα 99
>                 ˚Χριστέ 1
>                 ˚Χριστοῦ 252
>                 ˚Χριστόν 18
>                 ˚Χριστός 41
>                 ˚Χριστὸν 48
>                 ˚Χριστὸς 71
>                 ˚Χριστῷ 104
>                 ˚θεὸς 1
>                 ˚Ἰησοῦ 329
>                 ˚Ἰησοῦν 126
>                 ˚Ἰησοῦς 456
>
>
>             NB. If this is a technical means to mark the use of
>             */nomina sacra/*, then it ought to be described in the
>             conf file!
>             Best regards,
>
>             David
>
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>
>
>             On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 1:11 PM, pierre amadio
>             [email protected] wrote:
>
>                 Hi there.
>
>                 As far as I know, there is no such greek accent as a
>                 circular mark
>                 such as Ring Above (U+02DA).
>                 Looking at the source text, they seem to always
>                 appears next to words such as
>                 https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/main/SR.txt
>                 ˚Ἰησοῦ ˚Χριστοῦ,
>                 ˚Πνεύματος
>                 ˚Κυρίου
>
>                 Could it be a way to mark the use of a nomina sacra in
>                 manuscripts ?
>                 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomina_sacra
>
>                 On Thu, 13 Mar 2025 at 13:38, Kovács Zoltán
>                 [email protected] wrote:
>
>                     Thanks, David, I will look into it and get back to
>                     you.
>                     Best, Zoltan
>
>                     David Haslam dfhdfh-g/[email protected] ezt írta
>                     (időpont: 2025. márc. 13., Cs, 13:33):
>
>                         Arising from the grapheme count, I have a
>                         further technical query.
>
>                         There are 3626 instances of U+02DA RING ABOVE.
>
>                         I am wondering whether these would be better
>                         being all replaced by U+030A COMBINING RING
>                         ABOVE, and if so, whether the mark should
>                         follow the Greek letter rather than precede it.
>
>                         NB. My knowledge of Ancient Greek accents
>                         rules is fairly limited.
>
>                         Q. What is the most suitable Unicode font for
>                         viewing a Greek NT text?
>                         Might it be sensible to include such an
>                         element in the .conf file?
>
>                         Best regards,
>
>                         David
>
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>
>                         On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 12:13 PM,
>                         David Haslam dfhdfh-g/[email protected] wrote:
>
>                         Hi Kovács,
>
>                         Using BabelPad Tools, I have just done a
>                         grapheme count on the full Greek text with
>                         accents.
>                         i.e. After first stripping out the references
>                         from the diatheke output. See inside attached
>                         7-Zip file.
>
>                         There are two left/right count mismatches that
>                         ought to be looked at.
>
>                         2018 ‘ 483
>                         2019 ’ 484
>                         201C “ 1,904
>                         201D ” 1,907
>
>                         cf. The counts of left/right parentheses were OK.
>
>                         0028 ( 62
>                         0029 ) 62
>
>                         Best regards,
>
>                         David
>
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>                         On Thursday, March 13th, 2025 at 11:59 AM,
>                         David Haslam dfhdfh-g/[email protected] wrote:
>
>                         This module has the wrong Versification.
>
>                         It's a Greek NT and therefore LXX is simply
>                         the wrong choice!
>
>                         Please fix this ASAP.
>
>                         Dom, Please also fix any bug in your script
>                         that led to this mistake!
>
>                         Best regards,
>
>                         David
>
>                         Sent with Proton Mail secure email.
>
>                         On Wednesday, March 12th, 2025 at 5:52 PM,
>                         [email protected] [email protected] wrote:
>
>                         This is to announce that we have just now
>                         uploaded StatResGNT
>                         in the CrossWire beta repository for testing
>                         purposes.
>
>                         If no raised concern nor a quality alert has
>                         been sent on the list,
>                         StatResGNT will be published in a week.
>
>                         This is an update.
>                         Language=Ancient Greek (to 1453)
>                         Version=1.3
>                         History_1.3=(2025-03-12) Update to newest
>                         release (last database change: 2024-07-16)
>                         TextSource=https://github.com/Center-for-New-Testament-Restoration/SR/blob/master/SR.txt
>                         Versification=LXX
>
>                         Many thanks to Kovács_Zoltán for the hard work.
>
>                         yours
>
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