Re: Mailing list archives are insecure!

David, Troy explained it. You can have any prefix you like and the CrossWire web server will try to serve it as if there were none if it doesn’t match a known list of services.
diddly-squat.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel <http://diddly-squat.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel>

That Leo’s hallucination satisfied the implementation of the web server is just dumb luck.

DM

> On May 2, 2025, at 10:54 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]> wrote:
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> That doesn’t explain why the URL worked perfectly well and gave access to this very list. 
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> Explain that if you can. 
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> No LSD is required. 
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> David
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> On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 15:18, DM Smith <[email protected] <mailto:On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 15:18, DM Smith <<a href=>> wrote:
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>> Leo is hallucinating. This is a well known problem of GPT agents.
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>>> On May 2, 2025, at 8:13 AM, David Haslam <dfhdfh-g/[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> Hi Troy, 
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>>> That's a curious question! 
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>>> Me:  What is pipermail?
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>>> Leo:  Based on the search results, **pipermail** appears to be a term related to electronic mailing lists, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software.
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>>> According to Wikipedia, GNU Mailman is a computer software application for managing electronic mailing lists, and pipermail is likely a part of this system. It seems that pipermail is used to access and browse the archives of mailing lists.
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>>> If you're looking for more information on pipermail, I can try to help you further. 
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>>> Me:   What is the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel ? Leo: The URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is not explicitly mentioned in the search results you provided. However, based on the context, it appears to be related to email list archives or mailing list management systems.
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>>>       From the search results, it seems that the `pipermail` term is related to email list archives, specifically the archives of mailing lists managed by the GNU Mailman software. 
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>>> Given this information, it is possible that the URL for the archive of the CrossWire Bible Society's mailing list called sword-devel is in the format of `https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/` or something similar.
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>>> Aside: Leo is the AI agent in the Brave browser. 
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>>> So, now you know how I found it, is there something amiss with the aforementioned hostname? 
>>> I don't recall seeing it before, but, hey!
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>>> Best regards, 
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>>> David
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>>> On Friday, May 2nd, 2025 at 1:03 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Don't use 'lists' dot crosswire.org. Where did you find that hostname? We have a catchall, so you can say https://bettyboop.crosswire.org <https://bettyboop.crosswire.org/> if you want, but the certificate won't be value for that domain.
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>>>> On 5/2/25 6:46 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>> If you visit (eg) https://lists.crosswire.org/pipermail/sword-devel/
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>>>>> The first thing you notice is a Browser Warning that the URL is insecure. 
>>>>> The https connection falls back to insecure http 
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>>>>> Please would someone with access to our server make the necessary changes for our list archives. 
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>>>>> Best regards, 
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>>>>> David
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