RE: RE: Help with the unit of displacment in modal analysis

"David Lindeman [email protected] [Abaqus]" <[email protected]> Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:40:37 +0000
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Yes, the =E2=80=9Cdisplacements=E2=80=9D represent the mode shapes, but the=
y do not have units (in Abaqus or ANSYS).  You can apply any arbitrary scal=
e factor to the =E2=80=9Cdisplacements=E2=80=9D and still have the same mod=
e shape.  So, if the values reported by Abaqus don=E2=80=99t work with your=
 =E2=80=9Cmethod=E2=80=9D, then you=E2=80=99ll need to figure out what scal=
e factor is appropriate.  By default, ANSYS MAPDL normalizes the mode shape=
s to the mass matrix (see documentation for MODOPT command).  The default n=
ormalization method used by Abaqus depends on the solver options selected, =
but will generally default to the mass matrix when the AMS eigensolver is u=
sed, and to unity when the Lanczos solver is used.  So, the differences you=
 are seeing may very likely be due to the normalization method.

Regards,

Dave Lindeman
Staff Scientist
Corporate Research Systems Laboratory
3M Center 235-3G-08
St. Paul, MN 55144
651-733-6383

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Abaqus] RE: Help with the unit of displacment in moda=
l analysis



Yes, I understand that.
But , the modal shapes have "fictive displacements" that represent the sha=
pe
of the plate in a specifc modal shape. Right?

I need these displacments in Z direction for numerics aplications.

Softwares like "ANSYS" presents this displacments with consistent values
(43E-3 meters, for example). Theses values aways work out in the method I
intend use.

But, in ABAQUS, these valores are so strangers (3.45 meters). That values,
includ, seemsing out of scale when we look at the image of the modal shape
(second imagem that I posted).

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      <p>Yes, the =E2=80=9Cdisplacements=E2=80=9D represent the mode shapes=
, but they do not have units (in Abaqus or ANSYS).  You can apply any arbit=
rary scale factor to the =E2=80=9Cdisplacements=E2=80=9D and still have the=
 same mode shape.  So, if the values reported by Abaqus don=E2=80=99t work =
with your =E2=80=9Cmethod=E2=80=9D, then you=E2=80=99ll need to figure out =
what scale factor is appropriate.  By default, ANSYS MAPDL normalizes the m=
ode shapes to the mass matrix (see documentation for MODOPT command).  The =
default normalization method used by Abaqus depends on the solver options s=
elected, but will generally default to the mass matrix when the AMS eigenso=
lver is used, and to unity when the Lanczos solver is used.  So, the differ=
ences you are seeing may very likely be due to the normalization method.<br=
>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dave Lindeman<br>
Staff Scientist<br>
Corporate Research Systems Laboratory<br>
3M Center 235-3G-08<br>
St. Paul, MN 55144<br>
651-733-6383<br>
<br>
From: [email protected] &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2019 7:06 PM<br>
To: [email protected]<br>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [Abaqus] RE: Help with the unit of displacment in modal=
 analysis<br>
<br>
Yes, I understand that.<br>
But , the modal shapes have &quot;fictive displacements&quot; that represen=
t the shape<br>
of the plate in a specifc modal shape. Right?<br>
<br>
I need these displacments in Z direction for numerics aplications.<br>
<br>
Softwares like &quot;ANSYS&quot; presents this displacments with consistent=
 values<br>
(43E-3 meters, for example). Theses values aways work out in the method I<b=
r>
intend use.<br>
<br>
But, in ABAQUS, these valores are so strangers (3.45 meters). That values,<=
br>
includ, seemsing out of scale when we look at the image of the modal shape<=
br>
(second imagem that I posted).<br>
<br>
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