Re: Re: Project website

Tim Daly <[email protected]> Wed, 5 Feb 2025 18:08:41 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.mathematics.algebra.fricas.devel,gmane.comp.mathematics.axiom.devel
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>why don't you allow someone who has GitHub creds all set to manage it for
you?

There is nothing there to "manage". Feel free to gain control if you can.

>It's very easy to keep your push access to GitHub repos, just let this
> someone  upload your public ssh key there.

I don't have an SSH key to the Axiom repo. While Microsoft was
busy locking things down I was busy writing code and struggling
with navel gazing about how to merge proofs with the Category
Domain hierarchy. Since this was such a deep and fundamental
change I was not pushing updates so I was not paying attention.
Mea Culpa.

Tim



On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:28=E2=80=AFPM Dima Pasechnik <[email protected]> w=
rote:

> Hi Tim,
>
> why don't you allow someone who has GitHub creds all set to manage it for
> you?
> It's very easy to keep your push access to GitHub repos, just let this
> someone  upload your public ssh key there.
>
> Dima
>
> On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM Tim Daly <[email protected]> wrot=
e:
> >
> > Axiom is dead. The site got no traffic. I don't have github access
> anymore
> > due to Microsoft's multi-factor "protection". It was a good 24 years.
> >
> > It was fun while it lasted. The last effort was a new parallel
> construction
> > of "Category, Domain, Proof" which integrated LEAN proofs (e.g. about
> Abelians)
> > as a separate, connected hierarchy, enabling proofs of algorithms like
> the GCD.
> > That will never see the light of day.
> >
> > The real cause of death is my lack of management skills and
> objectionable personality.
> > I thought the point of research software was to innovate, not polish.
> Nobody agreed.
> > Adding proofs and being literate were too radical. Dick Jenks would hav=
e
> succeeded.
> >
> > My real frustration is that the several hundred people who contributed
> in large and
> > small ways over many years don't seem to even get mentioned. Credit is
> so easy
> > to share. Axiom would never have been re-created without effort from
> people like you.
> > At least I personally say "Thank you, Camm."
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:50=E2=80=AFPM Camm Maguire <camm@maguirefamil=
y.org>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Tim!  I hope this note finds you well!
> >>
> >> Just noticing that axiom-developer.org appears to be inaccessible.
> >> Github appears more recent.  What is the best way to keep current with
> >> axiom?
> >>
> >> Take care,
> >> --
> >> Camm Maguire
> [email protected]
> >>
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >> "The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens."  --
> Baha'u'llah
> >
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>&gt;why don&#39;t you allow someone who has GitHub cr=
eds all set to manage it for you?</div><div><br></div><div>There is nothing=
 there to &quot;manage&quot;. Feel free to gain control if you can.<br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>
&gt;It&#39;s very easy to keep your push access to GitHub repos, just let t=
his<br>
&gt; someone=C2=A0 upload your public ssh key there.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>I don&#39;t have an SSH key to the Axiom repo. While Microsoft was</div>=
<div>busy locking things down I was busy writing code and struggling</div><=
div>with navel gazing about how to merge proofs with the Category</div><div=
>Domain hierarchy. Since this was such a deep and fundamental</div><div>cha=
nge I was not pushing updates so I was not paying attention.</div><div>Mea =
Culpa.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Tim</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 3:28=E2=80=AFPM Dima Pasechnik=
 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<=
br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi Tim,<br>
<br>
why don&#39;t you allow someone who has GitHub creds all set to manage it f=
or you?<br>
It&#39;s very easy to keep your push access to GitHub repos, just let this<=
br>
someone=C2=A0 upload your public ssh key there.<br>
<br>
Dima<br>
<br>
On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 1:17=E2=80=AFPM Tim Daly &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:axiom=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Axiom is dead. The site got no traffic. I don&#39;t have github access=
 anymore<br>
&gt; due to Microsoft&#39;s multi-factor &quot;protection&quot;. It was a g=
ood 24 years.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; It was fun while it lasted. The last effort was a new parallel constru=
ction<br>
&gt; of &quot;Category, Domain, Proof&quot; which integrated LEAN proofs (e=
.g. about Abelians)<br>
&gt; as a separate, connected hierarchy, enabling proofs of algorithms like=
 the GCD.<br>
&gt; That will never see the light of day.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; The real cause of death is my lack of management skills and objectiona=
ble personality.<br>
&gt; I thought the point of research software was to innovate, not polish. =
Nobody agreed.<br>
&gt; Adding proofs and being literate were too radical. Dick Jenks would ha=
ve succeeded.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; My real frustration is that the several hundred people who contributed=
 in large and<br>
&gt; small ways over many years don&#39;t seem to even get mentioned. Credi=
t is so easy<br>
&gt; to share. Axiom would never have been re-created without effort from p=
eople like you.<br>
&gt; At least I personally say &quot;Thank you, Camm.&quot;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Tim<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:50=E2=80=AFPM Camm Maguire &lt;<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Hi Tim!=C2=A0 I hope this note finds you well!<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Just noticing that <a href=3D"http://axiom-developer.org" rel=3D"n=
oreferrer" target=3D"_blank">axiom-developer.org</a> appears to be inaccess=
ible.<br>
&gt;&gt; Github appears more recent.=C2=A0 What is the best way to keep cur=
rent with<br>
&gt;&gt; axiom?<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Take care,<br>
&gt;&gt; --<br>
&gt;&gt; Camm Maguire=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=
=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">c=
[email protected]</a><br>
&gt;&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D<br>
&gt;&gt; &quot;The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens.&quot=
;=C2=A0 --=C2=A0 Baha&#39;u&#39;llah<br>
&gt;<br>
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