Re: don't toss your circa 1964 Abramowitz and Stegun just yet.

Raymond Toy <[email protected]> Sat, 11 Jul 2026 07:10:44 -0700
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On 7/11/26 6:27 AM, Barton Willis via Maxima-discuss wrote:

> Table 22.7 (page 782) of Abramowitz and Stegun (1964) gives the 
> order-only recursion for the Jacobi polynomials.  This recursion is 
> missing from Table 18.9.1 
> <https://dlmf.nist.gov/18.9><https://dlmf.nist.gov/18.9>of the DLMF.  
> Later, the DLMF gives several Jacobi polynomial recursions that 
> involve the parameters and the order. 
> <http://dlmf.nist.gov/18.9.E4><http://dlmf.nist.gov/18.9.E4>  I didn't 
> try, but possibly these recursions imply the order-only recursion.
>
> Lesson:  Unless you are eager to do some tedious linear algebra, don't 
> toss your 62 year old Abramowitz and Stegun just yet.
Heh. I haven’t opened my copy in a long time since I tend to use the 
online pdf versions such as 
https://personal.math.ubc.ca/~cbm/aands/abramowitz_and_stegun.pdf. There 
are others around.

We should probably add some references to our manual to link to DLMF 
and/or A&S, like we do for other functions.

>
> --Barton
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          Table 22.7 (page 782) of Abramowitz and Stegun (1964) gives
          the order-only recursion for the Jacobi polynomials.=C2=A0 This=

          recursion is missing from
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          </a>of the DLMF.=C2=A0 Later, the DLMF gives several Jacobi
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          <span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Lesson:=C2=A0 Unless you a=
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            eager to do some tedious linear algebra, don't toss your 62
            year old
          </span><span style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Abramowitz and
            Stegun just yet.=C2=A0</span></div>
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      Heh. I haven=E2=80=99t opened my copy in a long time since I tend t=
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      the online pdf versions such as <a
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/aands/abramowitz_and_stegun.pdf</a>.
      There are others around.
      <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 19.2px; margin-top: 0px;">We should
        probably add some references to our manual to link to DLMF
        and/or A&amp;S, like we do for other functions.</p>
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