Re: Question about memory management in L4 Fiasco O.C + L4re

Hello Adam,

What I mean by accessing memory partition is: does Fiasco.OC accesses memory
reserved for L4Linux when handling system-call issued by L4Linux guest for
example
or any other operation.

Thank you very much for your answer.

Best regards,
Mahdi


On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello Adam,
>
> I would like to know if Fiasco.OC kernel accesses memory partition
> allocated to an L4Linux guest?
> And for what reasons it has to do it?
>
> Thank you very much for your answer.
>
> Best regards,
> Mahdi
>
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> On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 3:19 PM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Adam,
>>
>> According to Fiasco O.C/L4re documentation Sigma0 is the root pager,
>> that is, it is responsible of resolving page fault of user-level tasks,
>> right?
>>
>> Knowing that L4Linux is created as a user-level task, thus any memory
>> page fault occurring
>> in L4Linux or its user processes logically has to be handled through
>> Sigma0.
>>
>> However, as you previously mentioned in one of your answers, a handling of
>> a page fault occurring in L4Linux does not involve any L4Re object
>> including Sigma0.
>>
>> My question is: what configuration and / or operations have been made
>> in order to force that a memory page fault in L4Linux has to be handled
>> only by Fiasco and L4Linux and not going through L4Re objects?
>> And where these operations are written in the source code.
>>
>> Thank you very much for your answer.
>>
>> Best regards.
>> Mahdi
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>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Adam,
>>>
>>> I would like to understand how L4 Fiasco manages the virtual memory of a
>>> L4Linux guest.
>>>
>>> Does L4 Fiasco maintains a "shadow page table" in order to perform a
>>> two-level memory address translation:
>>> guest virtual memory --> guest real memory --> host physical memory?
>>>
>>> If the answer is yes, where the "shadow page table" is maintained? which
>>> L4 Fiasco object
>>> is responsible of this operation?
>>>
>>> If we suppose that an L4Linux guest has for example a 64MB of fixed
>>> physical memory region,
>>> in case a new L4Linux user task arrives and there is no available space
>>> to allocate
>>> a new page for this task, an already used page has to be unmapped, right?
>>>
>>> If the answer is yes, then where the dirty page will be swapped?
>>>
>>> Thank you very much for your answer.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Mahdi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello Adam,
>>>>
>>>> If I correctly understood, and If we suppose that an L4Linux instance
>>>> is started for example with this command line options:
>>>> ... earlyprintk=1 em=64M ...
>>>>
>>>> This means that a 64MB of physical memory region composed of a set of
>>>> contiguous physical frames is allocated to L4Linux, right?
>>>>
>>>> L4Linux will use a part of this 64MB of physical memrory for its own
>>>> kernel execution, and
>>>> the rest of physical memory space will be used by L4Linux to load
>>>> user-level programs
>>>> and allocate physical memory for them, right?
>>>>
>>>> If a user-level program on top of L4Linux generates a page-fault.
>>>> Are the L4 Fiasco kernel and L4re involved in the execution flow to
>>>> handle the page-fault?
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your clarification.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Mahdi
>>>>
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>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 10:36 AM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Adam,
>>>>>
>>>>> The memory regions are exclusive. Specifying exactly which physical
>>>>>> memory an L4Linux is getting is currently not possible but I guess
>>>>>> you're using the numbers just as an example?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, I am giving these numbers as an example.
>>>>> However, is it possible to know what are the start address and the end address
>>>>> of a physical memory partition allocated to a L4Linux instance?
>>>>>
>>>>> The memory is completely mapped initially, so no page fault should
>>>>>> happen. As probably nobody will take it away again it should also stay
>>>>>> like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this apply also to user-level programs executed on top of L4Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can put showpfexc=1 on the cmdline to see any in-kernel page fault.
>>>>>>
>>>>> There shouldn't be any (except in the outside wrapper code as I see
>>>>>> which can be changed by launching L4Linux with the eager_map flag).
>>>>>
>>>>> Could please give some explanation about what is the wrapper code? And Where to set the "eager_map flag" option?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you very much for your answer!
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Mahdi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Mahdi Aichouch <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have some questions concerning memory management in Fiasco O.C  +
>>>>>> L4re.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to test two L4Linux instances, and for each L4Linux
>>>>>> instance I want to reserve one static fixed physical memory partition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance, one 128MB for the first L4Linux and one 128MB for the
>>>>>> second.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Knowing that Fiasco O.C. uses "on demand paging" to allocate pages
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> user tasks, is it possible that each partition of L4Linux could be
>>>>>> allocated
>>>>>> a static physical memory region composed of contiguous physical
>>>>>> frames.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For instance, one memory region starting from 128MB to 256MB for the
>>>>>> first L4Linux,
>>>>>> and second memory region from 256MB to 512MB for the second L4Linux.
>>>>>> Each memory region is allocated exclusively to one L4Linux instance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to know if it is possible to load all the code + data of
>>>>>> a L4Linux instance
>>>>>> into its reserved memory partition, so no page fault will be
>>>>>> encountered during runtime.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it possible to tell me if these above operations could be realized
>>>>>> in Fiasco O.C and L4re?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the answer is yes, is it possible to tell me what are the objects
>>>>>> that should be used or
>>>>>> adapted in order to implement these?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What are the issues that I should pay attention to?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Many thanks in advance for your answer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mahdi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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