Re: [TTLUG] Thank you Microsoft
Taran Rampersad <[email protected]>
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Unearthed and sent to the TTLUG by the Antiguan connection. :) Good stuff in here. Taran Stanford .T. Mings Jr. wrote: > This is a real world sitution. A CEO faced with a serious decision > and thankfull he made it. > http://news.com.com/2008-1082_3-5065859.html?tag=fd_lede2_hed > Rockin' on without Microsoft > By David Becker > Staff Writer, CNET News.com > August 20, 2003, 4:00 AM PT > > > > newsmakers Sterling Ball, a jovial, plain-talking businessman, is CEO > of Ernie Ball, the world's leading maker of premium guitar strings > endorsed by generations of artists ranging from the likes of Eric > Clapton to the dudes from Metallica. > > But since jettisoning all of Microsoft products three years ago, Ernie > Ball has also gained notoriety as a company that dumped most of its > proprietary software--and still lived to tell the tale. > > In 2000, the Business Software Alliance conducted a raid and > subsequent audit at the San Luis Obispo, Calif.-based company that > turned up a few dozen unlicensed copies of programs. Ball settled for > $65,000, plus $35,000 in legal fees. But by then, the BSA, a trade > group that helps enforce copyrights and licensing provisions for major > business software makers, had put the company on the evening news and > featured it in regional ads warning other businesses to monitor their > software licenses. > > Humiliated by the experience, Ball told his IT department he wanted > Microsoft products out of his business within six months. "I said, 'I > don't care if we have to buy 10,000 abacuses,'" recalled Ball, who > recently addressed the LinuxWorld trade show. "We won't do business > with someone who treats us poorly." > > Ball's IT crew settled on a potpourri of open-source software--Red > Hat's version of Linux, the OpenOffice office suite, Mozilla's Web > browser--plus a few proprietary applications that couldn't be > duplicated by open source. Ball, whose father, Ernie, founded the > company, says the transition was a breeze, and since then he's been > happy to extol the virtues of open-source software to anyone who asks. > He spoke with CNET News.com about his experience. > > Q: Can you start by giving us a brief rundown of how you became an > open-source advocate? > A: I became an open-source guy because we're a privately owned > company, a family business that's been around for 30 years, making > products and being a good member of society. We've never been sued, > never had any problems paying our bills. And one day I got a call that > there were armed marshals at my door talking about software license > compliance...I thought I was OK; I buy computers with licensed > software. But my lawyer told me it could be pretty bad. > > The BSA had a program back then called "Nail Your Boss," where they > encouraged disgruntled employees to report on their company...and > that's what happened to us. Anyways, they basically shut us down...We > were out of compliance I figure by about 8 percent (out of 72 desktops). > > How did that happen? > We pass our old computers down. The guys in engineering need a new PC, > so they get one and we pass theirs on to somebody doing clerical work. > Well, if you don't wipe the hard drive on that PC, that's a violation. > Even if they can tell a piece of software isn't being used, it's still > a violation if it's on that hard drive. What I really thought is that > you ought to treat people the way you want to be treated. I couldn't > treat a customer the way Microsoft dealt with me...I went from being a > pro-Microsoft guy to instantly being an anti-Microsoft guy. > > Did you want to settle? > Never, never. That's the difference between the way an employee and an > owner thinks. They attacked my family's name and came into my > community and made us look bad. There was never an instance of me > wanting to give in. I would have loved to have fought it. But when > (the BSA) went to Congress to get their powers, part of what they got > is that I automatically have to pay their legal fees from day one. > That's why nobody's ever challenged them--they can't afford it. My > attorney said it was going to cost our side a quarter million dollars > to fight them, and since you're paying their side, too, figure at > least half a million. It's not worth it. You pay the fine and get on > with your business. What most people do is get terrified and pay their > license and continue to pay their licenses. And they do that no matter > what the license program turns into. > > What happened after the auditors showed up? > It was just negotiation between lawyers back and forth. And while that > was going on, that's when I vowed I was never going to use another one > of their products. But I've got to tell you, I couldn't have built my > business without Microsoft, so I thank them. Now that I'm not so > bitter, I'm glad I'm in the position I'm in. They made that possible, > and I thank them. > > So it was the publicity more than the audit itself that got you riled? > Nobody likes to be made an example of, but especially in the name of > commerce. They were using me to sell software, and I just didn't think > that was right. Call me first if you think we have a compliance issue. > Let's do a voluntary audit and see what's there. They went right for > the gut...I think it was because it was a new (geographical) area for > them, and we're the No. 1 manufacturer in the county, so why not go > after us? > > So what did swearing off Microsoft entail? > We looked at all the alternatives. We looked at Apple, but that's > owned in part by Microsoft. (Editor's note: Microsoft invested $150 > million in Apple in 1997.) We just looked around. We looked at Sun's > Sun Ray systems. We looked at a lot of things. And it just came back > to Linux, and Red Hat in particular, was a good solution. > > So what kind of Linux setup do you have? > You know what, I'm not the IT guy. I make the business decisions. All > I know is we're running Red Hat with Open Office and Mozilla and > Evolution and the basic stuff. > > We were creating the cocktail that people are guzzling down today, but > we had to find it and put it together on our own. It's so funny--in > three and half years, we went from being these idiots that were > thinking emotionally rather than businesslike...to now we're smart and > talking to tech guys. I know I saved $80,000 right away by going to > open source, and each time something like (Windows) XP comes along, I > save even more money because I don't have to buy new equipment to run > the software. One of the great things is that we're able to run a poor > man's thin client by using old computers we weren't using before > because it couldn't handle Windows 2000. They work fine with the > software we have now. > > How has the transition gone? > It's the funniest thing--we're using it for e-mail client/server, > spreadsheets and word processing. It's like working in windows. One of > the analysts said it costs $1,250 per person to change over to open > source. It wasn't anywhere near that for us. I'm reluctant to give > actual numbers. I can give any number I want to support my position, > and so can the other guy. But I'll tell you, I'm not paying any > per-seat license. I'm not buying any new computers. When we need > something, we have white box systems we put together ourselves. It > doesn't need to be much of a system for most of what we do. > > But there's a real argument now about total cost of ownership, once > you start adding up service, support, etc. > What support? I'm not making calls to Red Hat; I don't need to. I > think that's propaganda...What about the cost of dealing with a virus? > We don't have 'em. How about when we do have a problem, you don't have > to send some guy to a corner of the building to find out what's going > on--he never leaves his desk, because everything's server-based. > There's no doubt that what I'm doing is cheaper to operate. The > analyst guys can say whatever they want. > > The other thing is that if you look at productivity. If you put a > bunch of stuff on people's desktops they don't need to do their job, > chances are they're going to use it. I don't have that problem. If all > you need is word processing, that's all you're going to have on your > desktop, a word processor. It's not going to have Paint or PowerPoint. > I tell you what, our hits to eBay went down greatly when not everybody > had a Web browser. For somebody whose job is filling out forms all > day, invoicing and exporting, why do they need a Web browser? The idea > that if you have 2,000 terminals they all have to have a Web browser, > that's crazy. It just creates distractions. > > Have you heard anything from Microsoft since you started speaking out > about them? > I got an apology today from a wants-to-be-anonymous Microsoft employee > who heard me talk. He asked me if anyone ever apologized, because what > happened to me sounded pretty rough to him, and I told him no. He > said, "Well, I am. But we're nice guys." I'm sure they are. When a > machine gets too big, it doesn't know when it's stepping on ants. But > every once in a while, you step on a red ant. > > Ernie Ball is pretty much known as a musician's buddy. How does it > feel to be a technology guru, as well? > I think it's great for me to be a technology influence. It shows how > ridiculous it is that I can get press because I switched to > OpenOffice. And the reason why is because the myth has been built so > big that you can't survive without Microsoft, so that somebody who > does get by without Microsoft is a story. > > It's just software. You have to figure out what you need to do within > your organization and then get the right stuff for that. And we're not > a backwards organization. We're progressive; we've won communications > and design awards...The fact that I'm not sending my e-mail through > Outlook doesn't hinder us. It's just kind of funny. I'm speaking to a > standing-room-only audience at a major technology show because I use a > different piece of software--that's hysterical. > > You've pretty much gotten by with off-the-shelf software. Was it tough > to find everything you needed in the open-source world? > Yeah, there are some things that are tough to find, like payroll > software. We found something, and it works well. But the developers > need to start writing the real-world applications people need to run a > business...engineering, art and design tools, that kind of > stuff...They're all trying to build servers that already exist and do > a whole bunch of stuff that's already out there...I think there's a > lot of room to not just create an alternative to Microsoft but really > take the next step and do something new. > > Any thoughts on SCO's claims on Linux? > I don't know the merits of the lawsuit, but I run their Unix and I'm > taking it off that system. I just don't like the way it's being > handled. I feel like I'm being threatened again. > > They never said anything to me, and if I was smart, I probably > wouldn't mention it. But I don't like how they're doing it. What > they're doing is casting a shadow over the whole Linux community. > Look, when you've got Windows 98 not being supported, NT not being > supported, OS/2 not being supported--if you're a decision maker in the > IT field, you need to be able to look at Linux as something that's > going to continue to be supported. It's a major consideration when > you're making those decisions. > > What if SCO wins? > There are too many what-ifs. What if they lose? What if IBM buys them? > I really don't know, and I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. But > I can't believe somebody really wants to claim ownership of > Linux...it's not going to make me think twice. > > You see, I'm not in this just to get free software. No. 1, I don't > think there's any such thing as free software. I think there's a cost > in implementing all of it. How much of a cost depends on whom you talk > to. Microsoft and some analysts will tell you about all the support > calls and service problems. That's hysterical. Have they worked in my > office? I can find out how many calls my guys have made to Red Hat, > but I'm pretty sure the answer is none or close to it...It just > doesn't crash as much as Windows. And I don't have to buy new > computers every time they come out with a new release and abandon the > old one. > > Has Microsoft tried to win you back? > Microsoft is a growing business with $49 billion in the bank. What do > they care about me? If they cared about me, they wouldn't have > approached me the way they did in the first place...And I'm glad they > didn't try to get me back. I thank them for opening my eyes, because > I'm definitely money ahead now and I'm definitely just as productive, > and I don't have any problems communicating with my customers. So > thank you, Microsoft. > > >