Re: Open Source -> Closed Source
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <[email protected]> Sat, 14 May 2005 23:08:09 +0900
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>>>>> "Santiago" == Santiago Gala <[email protected]> writes: Santiago> El vie, 13-05-2005 a las 17:04 +0900, Stephen Santiago> J. Turnbull escribió: >> The point of the GPL is to ensure that future versions, as well >> as the present one, are free. But there is a loophole---if you >> are the copyright owner. So why are people so confident that >> software monopolized by the FSF will stay free? [...] Santiago> Furthermore, the way the Apache Software License works Santiago> means that, it the ASF somehow dissolved, any third Santiago> party would be able to take on the code of a project XXX Santiago> just by: That's basically the definition of "free software". I don't see the relevance to this thread. What's under discussion here is how can you trust that the current developers won't choose to fork off a non-free project, leaving the free version temporarily orphaned, probably stalled in confusion, and probably in less competent hands in the middle to long term. See the "Computer Survey" thread for why this matters. It's true that a key developer could join the Moonies or get married or something, with similar effect, but what is being discussed here (as I understand it) is how to avoid is providing _a profit motive_ for projects to "go closed". The FSF solves that by tying both hands behind its back. I'm not saying that people don't have similar faith in Apache (or Linux or Mozilla or ...), I rather suppose they do. But the Apache group has to have solved it some other way; the ASL isn't copyleft, so you don't even need ownership to take a project closed. The fact that the Foundation is chartered as a nonprofit is only a minor impediment; the part of their charter you quoted suggests they could even take _some_ projects private and use the proceeds to fund others---there's nothing that says a non-profit must provide all its products below cost. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.