Re: Charging the Charger
"Stephen J. Turnbull" <[email protected]> Mon, 16 May 2005 13:46:35 +0900
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>>>>> "Laurent" == Laurent GUERBY <[email protected]> writes: Dr. Holmes> As shown by Section III and by this Section, it is Dr. Holmes> important that the normal, proper standards of Dr. Holmes> patentability are applied to computer program related Dr. Holmes> inventions. Which is a reasonable position to take. He doesn't say the "best thing since sliced bread", just that there are benefits and that they significantly outweigh the costs. Furthermore, he writes: Dr. Holmes> But, in summary, Section III shows that the Dr. Holmes> theoretical and other economic literature does not Dr. Holmes> demonstrate, indeed casts doubt, on whether economic Dr. Holmes> efficiency, i.e. increased overall welfare, is Dr. Holmes> achieved by having or making computer program related Dr. Holmes> inventions patentable. What more could you ask from an expert witness *for the other side*? He's conceded your whole point!! He even refers to the impact on OSS (elsewhere in the report). But he nonetheless concludes that it is in the interest of European SMEs (small/medium size enterprises) to have software and business method patents available. I conclude that you should be rooting for Marshall to come up with a way to generate bigger profits with more openness than the current system. You just aren't going to beat this Holmes et cie. on general principles---you have to get into the nitty gritty of empirical SME economics, and that is going to be expensive and time-consuming. This guy Holmes has done his homework, and done it well. The fast track for OSS is going to be to show that the benefits to SMEs can be achieved _without_ patents---which is exactly what Marshall's research is about, AFAICT. >> Eliminating software patents and reforming the patent system in >> general look like good ideas to me at the moment, and I know a >> lot of economists who feel the same way or more so. But in >> general I think most customers can do substantially better by >> having a range of licenses available in the market, Laurent> Again I've never said OSS should be the *only* legal way Laurent> to write software. But full OSS systems are infeasible if software patents exist. So you would rule out patents, simply to ensure a safe haven for OSS. Even if it is not your argument, it certainly sounds that way. And the FSF certainly _does_ say that OSS should be the *only* legal way to write software. The FSF does work within the democratic system, but the goal is clear: 100% free software. I'm sorry, but the political economic reality is that OSS advocacy in those terms is going to sound extremist and very special-interest- oriented to the legislators when compared to Holmes's report. We need to do better than that. -- School of Systems and Information Engineering http://turnbull.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp University of Tsukuba Tennodai 1-1-1 Tsukuba 305-8573 JAPAN Ask not how you can "do" free software business; ask what your business can "do for" free software.