RE: Open Source Developer Exchange (Business Model)
"Julius Steyn" <[email protected]>
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Hi Seth, I appreciate your response and will try and address your comments as thoroughly as I can. However before I answer - all business models and plans go through evolution and are not perfect when they launch. 1) The objective of this launch was to gain members with sufficient knowledge and desire that will participate to perfect the business model. Quality control is only one aspect of the business that needs refinement, as will the project management aspects and the team management aspects - to name only two additional points. I believe that a collective approach to solving and improving the business model will only be to our advantage, hence the reason for this targeted launch and also the main reason for the collective ownership strategy. 2) I apologise - but yes you are correct in your assumption that a company can hire you directly - however with large corporate transactions where multiple programmers like you are required companies are not keen to go through individual selection and hire processes, especially not when the professionals are in multiple tax and legal jurisdictions and when those individuals cannot warrant their work or be sued for damages - these are the kind of benefits that Solutionstap offer its corporate customers. 3) The focus of Solutionstap is not to skim your or any other member's profits - as for any large consulting firm or software development company there is a mark-up on the resource cost - this mark-up is the company's operating income and profit - which in Solutionstap would be owned by you and the other members. We can debate whether or not Solutionstap will position itself on price differentiation or service differentiation - I believe it will be a combination of the two; there are many aspects of the pricing strategy that we can discuss at a later stage. 4) The project fund has a large profit motive component - so yes it possible that you could work on your favourite project if it conforms to the qualifying criteria of the fund - the fund is owned by the company, which is owned by the members. The objective is to build equity value therefore as with any investment fund - investment in projects needs to be done according to prudent guidelines set by responsible fund managers. In our case we are the fund owners and we can decide how much of the fund will be exposed to profit focused investments and how much will be for non-profit focused investments that conform to criteria that could benefit the company and its members as a whole and not just the interest of a single individual. The profit objectives must link to the company's overall objectives for its members. 5) Solutionstap was incorporated less than a week ago - it already has customers and I hope to obtain permission from them in the next week to use their names on the website as a reference - however I sincerely hope that within the near future we could have quotes on the website like those of Wipro Technologies. I hope the above addressed some of your concerns Best regards, Julius Steyn -----Original Message----- From: Seth Gordon [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 07 May 2003 04:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Open Source Developer Exchange (Business Model) One of the things you're touting as a reason to hire Solutionstap is that your organization can provide quality control over the services offered by its members. Yet your Web site is offering memberships to the first 500 people who walk through the door, so to speak, all because they are the first ones to know about the site through the email lists you've posted on. If I fill out your forms and declare myself to be a J2EE wizard, how long will it take (and how much will your customers spend on my services) before you find out I'm actually not so good? Of course, you can check my resume or ask for some kind of certification, but employers can do the same thing before they hire me directly with just as little effort. One of the benefits of membership, according to your site, is that you have a fund to support projects. This is very nice, of course, if the profits of *other* people's work is skimmed to allow *me* to work on *my* favorite open-source project. However, I would be a little bit concerned that profits from *my* work are skimmed to allow *other people* -- possibly people who are not as good at programming as myself, see above -- to work on *their* favorite projects. I can't find anything here on your site that addresses the many critiques presented on this list by people with far more programming and business experience than myself. However, I could find hundreds of words describing why it was a good idea for Solutionstap to incorporate in Bermuda. (By contrast, when I went to the home page of Wipro Technologies, an Indian IT outsourcing firm, the first thing I saw was a testimonial about how Thames Water reduced its IT support costs by 20% by using Wipro.) -- "It always amazes me that people whose profession is computation never bother to get a little tiny bit of data and actually _do_ some." --Stephen J. Turnbull // seth gordon // [email protected] // http://ropine.com/sethg/cv.html //